Stars that were late bloomers

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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby magnifisaint » Sun 16 Apr 2017 4:16pm

Linton Lodger wrote:
Leo.J wrote:Jack Steven


Indeed, it took him 5 or 6 seasons. Didn't Michael Tuck play close to 100 reserves games before making his debut?

Not quite. Tuck played about 50 reserve games. Steven didn't take 5 yrs to come good. He was taken as underage in the draft. He would have gone top 10 if he waited a year.
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby BigMart » Sun 16 Apr 2017 5:35pm

Jack Steven kicked 3 as an 18yo in the famous game vs Geelong.

He starred in the VFL

UNFORTUNATELY his coach was Ross Lyon

He plays (and Armo) in either GF and we win both imo

But Eddy, McQualter 2010, Dempster (as a forward off a knee) were obviously better?!
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby skeptic » Sun 16 Apr 2017 5:42pm

[quote="BigMart"]Jack Steven kicked 3 as an 18yo in the famous game vs Geelong.

He starred in the VFL

UNFORTUNATELY his coach was Ross Lyon

He plays (and Armo) in either GF and we win both imo

But Eddy, McQualter 2010, Dempster (as a forward off a knee) were obviously better?![/quote]

I still have nightmares about that
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby Con Gorozidis » Tue 18 Apr 2017 10:47am

Tom Scully a good recent example of a high draft pick who took a few years to come good and coppped criticism early.
Look at him now.
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby saynta » Tue 18 Apr 2017 11:33am

BigMart wrote:Jack Steven kicked 3 as an 18yo in the famous game vs Geelong.

He starred in the VFL

UNFORTUNATELY his coach was Ross Lyon

He plays (and Armo) in either GF and we win both imo

But Eddy, McQualter 2010, Dempster (as a forward off a knee) were obviously better?!


Yep. But some on here still paint Lyin as some sort of coaching genius. He's not, of course. as history has shown.
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby saintbob » Wed 19 Apr 2017 12:23am

Jonathan Patton is a good comparison for Paddy
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby BigMart » Wed 19 Apr 2017 8:31am

Do you reckon Patton is a good comparison?

Firstly he's had TWO knee recos

Second he's 199cm and 102kg - he's a monster!
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby stonecold » Wed 19 Apr 2017 12:00pm

saintbob wrote:Jonathan Patton is a good comparison for Paddy


Jon Patton 197cm 102kgs

Paddy 194cm 94kgs

3cm difference, 8kgs difference, bit of a gap with weight, but not so much height!!!!!!

Good.comparison, both had many interruptions with injury or health!!!!!
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby Con Gorozidis » Wed 19 Apr 2017 12:02pm

stonecold wrote:
saintbob wrote:Jonathan Patton is a good comparison for Paddy


Jon Patton 197cm 102kgs

Paddy 194cm 94kgs

3cm difference, 8kgs difference, bit of a gap with weight, but not so much height!!!!!!

Good.comparison, both had many interruptions with injury or health!!!!!

?
Patton had two ACLs.
What are Paddy's disruptions?
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby stonecold » Wed 19 Apr 2017 2:16pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:
stonecold wrote:
saintbob wrote:Jonathan Patton is a good comparison for Paddy


Jon Patton 197cm 102kgs

Paddy 194cm 94kgs

3cm difference, 8kgs difference, bit of a gap with weight, but not so much height!!!!!!

Good.comparison, both had many interruptions with injury or health!!!!!

?
Patton had two ACLs.
What are Paddy's disruptions?


Paddy has had hamstrings, concussion's and shoulder among other injuries as well as health issues, I know it's not knees, but he still has had no continuity, which younger players need!!!!!

Also, how much longer has the General been in the system?????

If you happy to write Paddy off, that's up to you, good luck with that, your choice, not mine, I'm happy to back the kid in, like all true supporters should!!!!!
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby Enrico_Misso » Wed 19 Apr 2017 2:49pm

BJ was hardly a superstar in his first 5 years, indeed he was our whipping boy before Raph came along.
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby freely » Wed 19 Apr 2017 2:49pm

Goddard took a lot of flak in the early days. I seem to remember the word was he only ever went after the easy ball.
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby terry smith rules » Wed 19 Apr 2017 9:32pm

out of all current players the late bloomer by the length of the straight is Eddy Betts
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Re: Stars that were late bloomers

Postby BigMart » Wed 19 Apr 2017 10:51pm

Things get a bit distorted over time

BJ took 5 years? Means he was no good until 2008?

BTW
Wikipedia is not always an accurate source

Patton is listed as 198/101
That is a huge man

McCartin 194/94
That is a big bloke, but not a huge bloke in AFL terms

KPP range from 193-200cm and 92-106kg these days.
McCartin is not a big KPP
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