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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Post: # 1674871Post Johnny Member »

Isn't it a win for us if we get higher than pick 10 this year?

Isn't it as simple as that really?


We gave them pick 10 last year, in return for pick x this year. So if x > pick 10 - we win.


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Johnny Member wrote:Isn't it a win for us if we get higher than pick 10 this year?

Isn't it as simple as that really?


We gave them pick 10 last year, in return for pick x this year. So if x > pick 10 - we win.
Weeeellllllll - yes - but we also effectively got Battle and Long for pick 68 then - so that is a massive unders for us. If we get 10 or better - then we have made out like bandits!!!!

Battle and Long are effectively our pick 10 - so whatever we get for 2017 first rounder is a bonus

[Assuming that Long and Battle make the grade]


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Johnny Member wrote:Isn't it a win for us if we get higher than pick 10 this year?

Isn't it as simple as that really?


We gave them pick 10 last year, in return for pick x this year. So if x > pick 10 - we win.
No - as Ace wrote…

The trade was our original 2016 picks 10 and 68 for original 2016 picks 23 and 36 plus Hawthorn's 2017 first rounder.

So we lose 10 & 68 (2016)

Gain 23 & 36 (2016) plus Hawthorns first (2017) somewhere between 4 - 10

We have basically turned a mid first round into an early first round plus 2 second round picks

We made out like absolute bandits wherever Hawthorn finish.


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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Post: # 1674907Post samuraisaint »

In the second half of the season when their young players get worn out they'll struggle to win another game. They've done well to win four games, but two of them were by one kick, and their losses have been hidings. I think we'll probably get pick #5.


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Pick 3
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Rooting for the Suns this afternoon. Let's hope the bad Eagles turn up today; a further win for the Suns might bunch up the traffic at the bottom of the ladder.


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Suns defeat WCE

so double win for us!


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Two Moita Poita kicks the winning goal!

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Massive result for us. Going for North tonight


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Goose is king wrote:Massive result for us. Going for North tonight
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Goose is king wrote:Massive result for us. Going for North tonight
Though two edge sword there. a good win by North would see them above us on the ladder. Though with an extra game played. we do have the Crows in Adelaide next though.


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Brisbane obviously a lock for the spoon, swans should rise... but the one year carlton would be doing us a favour by being something slightly less than totally atrocious and they'll likely let us down.

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Post: # 1675046Post Johnny Member »

Pick 3 vs. Pick 5? Does it really matter?

We could get a Bont instead of a Billings.


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Johnny Member wrote:Pick 3 vs. Pick 5? Does it really matter?

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If we are to trade it, then yes.

With GWS for example it is extra points to enable the Academy Rort. A early pic also allows them to use the low pick first and them to grab an extra potential star through the Academy Rort.


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Post: # 1675155Post Con Gorozidis »

Pick 4 as it stands.


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Sometimes I wonder if we should bother in the next two seasons. The system is rigged for GWS and I cant see the AFL changing the ridiculous 20% discount scheme until they have already won two flags.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:Sometimes I wonder if we should bother in the next two seasons. The system is rigged for GWS and I cant see the AFL changing the ridiculous 20% discount scheme until they have already won two flags.
We've struggled for 6 seasons with a hugely compromised draft and crippling stadium deals - AFL: "Meh plenty more teams in Melbourne".

Qld and Sydney AFL: "We gotta get them to be the winningest to get them rugby folk - Academies, salary cap, put our men in charge up there - WHAT EVER IT TAKES!"

As it stands we have pick 4 and 8 (might drop back with academy s***). Would be some consolation if we don't make finals.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:Sometimes I wonder if we should bother in the next two seasons. The system is rigged for GWS and I cant see the AFL changing the ridiculous 20% discount scheme until they have already won two flags.
Did you know that GC, Brisbane and Sydney also have academies?
No one complains about them. GWS has lost access to the Murray region, which should be good enough I thought as that's where they pick up a fair amount of talent. Plus they have taken a hit this year from the Whitfield punishment.
Less of a problem then people think


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Post: # 1675174Post White Winmar »

GWS is so far ahead in terms of talent, they may as well hand them the flag if they get all their talent back. They've been missing at least six of their best 18 all year and yet they're still on top. If they get anywhere near their best back on the park, it's over. We just need to keep pinching their players in a concerted competition wise operation.


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Post: # 1675604Post saintsRrising »

Looks like the Swans are about to go above the Hawks on the ladder again...unless the Dogs have an amazing last quarter and the Swans stop. But who knows this year!


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Proph3t of egan wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Sometimes I wonder if we should bother in the next two seasons. The system is rigged for GWS and I cant see the AFL changing the ridiculous 20% discount scheme until they have already won two flags.
Did you know that GC, Brisbane and Sydney also have academies?
No one complains about them. GWS has lost access to the Murray region, which should be good enough I thought as that's where they pick up a fair amount of talent. Plus they have taken a hit this year from the Whitfield punishment.
Less of a problem then people think
Have you had a look at the Academy zone map?

Look at Appendix 2A p 204.

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Te ... 202015.pdf

The other Academies are in areas where noone actually plays footy.
The GWS Academy is in zones rich with footy history.

Add to that Brisbane Sydney, GC have not had anywhere near the number of 1st Rd draft picks n the short time that GWS have had them.


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Post: # 1675619Post SuperDuper »

saintsRrising wrote:Looks like the Swans are about to go above the Hawks on the ladder again...unless the Dogs have an amazing last quarter and the Swans stop. But who knows this year!
The GCS Hawks clash a classic 8 pointer

Could be the difference between pick 3 and pick 5 for us.


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Post: # 1676698Post Fidelis »

No pleasure from last night's loss but I'm at the G watching the repechage.
Some good might come from this weekend yet. Suns have looked the better team so far. Does feel odd to be barracking for an interstate team but I'd take a win today.


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Post: # 1676716Post Con Gorozidis »

Up the Mighty Suns!
Ablett tearing them a new one.
Getting ugly now.
At the MCG as well.
Talk about falling off a cliff....
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Many blocking frees paid???


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