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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby saintsRrising » Sun 11 Jun 2017 9:35pm

Goose is king wrote:If we get pick 2 and I think we will I think we need to keep it. I trust them to get the best mid available with that pick.


Now I know nothing about this years draft talent.

Are the current picks 2-5 genuine out and out mids? And if they are are they bollocking inside mids, or are they the tore of mid we need?

What if they are rucks, or flankers, utilities, key position players etc?

Personally if we get Pick 2 and we can use it to get Kelly then we should. He is exactly the type of mid that we need and our current mids are not.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby dragit » Sun 11 Jun 2017 9:42pm

Kelly would cost us two first rounders, he's far better than Treloar who cost collingwood 2 firsts.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby st.byron » Sat 17 Jun 2017 9:03pm

Good result today with Sydney winning. And Carlton in front of GC.

Looking at Hawthorn's fixture I can't see them winning more than another 3, maybe only 2. If that transpires, pick 2 coming our way.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby Devilhead » Sat 17 Jun 2017 9:27pm

Our challenge is to get Kelly but retain the Hawks pick

Re: Rockliff - a big NO for me - above average mid in the bottom side?? We need outside class not undersized inside battlers

Re: Draftees - like the look of Luke Davies-Uniacke - solid unit, great size, finds the ball inside and outside and has great skills
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby ace » Sat 17 Jun 2017 10:19pm

I hate saying this but I think we will do better outsourcing our drafting to GWS.
They don't make many mistakes but we too often just fritter our picks away on duds.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby ace » Sat 17 Jun 2017 10:32pm

GWS has lost their first round pick because of the Lachie Whitfield saga.
They have traded away their second round and third round picks last year.
But they do have our second round pick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_AFL_draft

I would expect GWS to continue with their policy of trying to get an early pick in before they are forced to queue jump to secure their first academy player.
At the moment, they won't have enough draft point currency (about 700 points) to even make that academy pick unless they trade away quality.
Our Hawthorn's first rounder may look very attractive to them if it will give them a pick ahead of their academy player.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby Con Gorozidis » Sun 18 Jun 2017 1:20am

Even if we miss out on Kelly we can still get an awesome result.

Straight swap - pick 10 for Whitfield.
Then use the Hawks pick (2 or 3) on a kid in the draft.

That should get us two guaranteed guns.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby saintsRrising » Sun 18 Jun 2017 1:47am

With Blues and Swans winning the Hawks are now even more likely to finish in the bottom 3.

Hawks to finish second bottom is a real chance.

Lions being 2 games shy of the Hawks and 7% behind will mean that Pick 1 is very unlikely for us.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby saintsRrising » Tue 20 Jun 2017 5:14pm

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/n ... n-in-peril

Hawks just announced that JOM has injured his patella tendon again.


"It's a new injury, different to what he had before," he said, referring to the injury that kept him out of the 2015 and 2016 seasons when he played for Gold Coast.

That is on top of his recent bone bruising injury. So no JOM to the rescue for the Hawks this year (and maybe beyond).
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby Fidelis » Thu 22 Jun 2017 2:57pm

Round 14 wish list. Sometimes there's a conflict between what's best for our finals chances and what's best for our Hawk pick. This round looks great. Most games have a bearing on one or the other and not many conflicted outcomes.
ADELAIDE vs Hawthorn
Swans vs ESSENDON (not sure about this one but Bombers win likely to kill off Swans tilt)
Pies vs PORT (Port already 2 games plus % ahead of us)
LIONS vs Giants (unlikely but wouldn't it be good)
Dogs vs NORTH
Eagles vs DEMONS (tough one but a loss at home is likely to hurt WC more than an away loss for Dees)
GEELONG vs Freo
Tigers vs BLUES
SAINTS vs GC

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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby Goose is king » Thu 22 Jun 2017 3:09pm

I agree with all those hopefull winners Fidelis except I won't Freo to beat Geelong. Freo are only two games ahead of the Hawks with a percentage similar.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby st.byron » Thu 22 Jun 2017 3:12pm

Goose is king wrote:I agree with all those hopefull winners Fidelis except I won't Freo to beat Geelong. Freo are only two games ahead of the Hawks with a percentage similar.


Same attitude here. Anything that puts distance between Hawks and those above them works for me. So Swans to beat the Bummers.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby Sainter_Dad » Thu 22 Jun 2017 3:15pm

Simple equation - each week - Saints win - Hawks lose - that's not too much to ask for - oh and maybe the Brions to snatch a few!
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby Con Gorozidis » Thu 22 Jun 2017 7:15pm

I would give up pick 3 for Lever and pick 10 for Whitfield.

In a heartbeat.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby Proph3t of egan » Thu 22 Jun 2017 10:38pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:I would give up pick 3 for Lever and pick 10 for Whitfield.

In a heartbeat.

Lever is crazy overrated, plays loose man in defence and isn't a great kick. We have Carlisle who plays the same role
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby saynta » Thu 22 Jun 2017 11:33pm

Oh well. Hate the crows anyway.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby desertsaint » Thu 22 Jun 2017 11:36pm

As I said - our pick is likely to be higher than the Hawks one.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby mr six o'clock » Thu 22 Jun 2017 11:36pm

saynta wrote:Oh well. Hate the crows anyway.

Yes
Just another reason to hate them even more
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby saynta » Thu 22 Jun 2017 11:40pm

mr six o'clock wrote:
saynta wrote:Oh well. Hate the crows anyway.

Yes
Just another reason to hate them even more


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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby shrodes » Fri 23 Jun 2017 12:53am

Hawks only a win and percentage outside the 8 right now.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby ace » Fri 23 Jun 2017 2:37am

Adelaide deliberately lost to spite us.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby saintsRrising » Fri 23 Jun 2017 7:36am

Ah bugga....
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby Con Gorozidis » Fri 23 Jun 2017 10:32am

saintsRrising wrote:Ah bugga....

Yeah bugga.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby borderbarry » Fri 23 Jun 2017 10:37am

No number two pick this year. I doubt it will be a bottom six pick.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Postby suss » Fri 23 Jun 2017 10:52am

I reckon people were getting way ahead of themselves thinking it would be pick 2. It's pretty bunched up down that end of the ladder and each win or loss can have a big affect on positioning.

I reckon pick 3-6 looking likely. Their run home certainly remains tough.
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