Coaches Votes 2017

[loris]

Well done Jack Steele
Rd 20

ST KILDA v WEST COAST
10 Jack Steele (StK)
5 Josh Kennedy (WC)
4 Luke Dunstan (StK)
4 Billy Longer (StK)
3 Jack Billings (StK)
3 Shannon Hurn (WC)
1 Koby Stevens (StK)

Isn't it 'noice' to see some of Saintsational's whipping boys getting coaches votes: Luke Dunstan, Billy Longer & Jack Billings?

[stonecold]

Well done Jack Steele
Rd 20

ST KILDA v WEST COAST
10 Jack Steele (StK)
5 Josh Kennedy (WC)
4 Luke Dunstan (StK)
4 Billy Longer (StK)
3 Jack Billings (StK)
3 Shannon Hurn (WC)
1 Koby Stevens (StK)

Isn't it 'noice' to see some of Saintsational's whipping boys getting coaches votes: Luke Dunstan, Billy Longer & Jack Billings?

Yes indeed it is, just shows the lack of genuine knowledge by some posters on here!!!!!

[Scollop]

Well done Jack Steele
Rd 20

ST KILDA v WEST COAST
10 Jack Steele (StK)
5 Josh Kennedy (WC)
4 Luke Dunstan (StK)
4 Billy Longer (StK)
3 Jack Billings (StK)
3 Shannon Hurn (WC)
1 Koby Stevens (StK)

Isn't it 'noice' to see some of Saintsational's whipping boys getting coaches votes: Luke Dunstan, Billy Longer & Jack Billings?

It is nice to see. Let's break it down though. 1 player gets BOG then you vote for second and third best and then you start to give encouragement awards. Did Longer get votes because he beat his opponent convincingly, or did he get votes because without him on the ground the result would have been different? Are they actually votes for impact on the game result?

Did Longer have an impact or did he work really hard and play his 'role' really well? Did he have more of an impact than Billings or Sinclair? I know all this type of voting is subjective, and we all know some of the best champions of the game missed out on popular awards because it's all in the eyes of those who vote. But sometimes...

In my opinion, votes from coaches, especially the 2 and 1 votes, are a 'well done' encouragement, rather than a genuine best on ground appraisal.

[desertsaint]

Well done Jack Steele
Rd 20

ST KILDA v WEST COAST
10 Jack Steele (StK)
5 Josh Kennedy (WC)
4 Luke Dunstan (StK)
4 Billy Longer (StK)
3 Jack Billings (StK)
3 Shannon Hurn (WC)
1 Koby Stevens (StK)

Isn't it 'noice' to see some of Saintsational's whipping boys getting coaches votes: Luke Dunstan, Billy Longer & Jack Billings?

It is nice to see. Let's break it down though. 1 player gets BOG then you vote for second and third best and then you start to give encouragement awards. Did Longer get votes because he beat his opponent convincingly, or did he get votes because without him on the ground the result would have been different? Are they actually votes for impact on the game result?

Did Longer have an impact or did he work really hard and play his 'role' really well? Did he have more of an impact than Billings or Sinclair? I know all this type of voting is subjective, and we all know some of the best champions of the game missed out on popular awards because it's all in the eyes of those who vote. But sometimes...

In my opinion, votes from coaches, especially the 2 and 1 votes, are a 'well done' encouragement, rather than a genuine best on ground appraisal.

well it's likely that one coach gave 4 votes to one of them, and the other got two votes from both, whilst billings got 3 from one. so none of that fits in the category of encouragement votes.

[stonecold]

Scollop in your opinion, enough said!!!!!

Your opinion more important than AFL Coaches?????

No encourage votes at this level, nice try, if you don't want your slice of Humble Pie, just express your opinion and say 'No'!!!!!

Billy is our Ruckman, based on the opinion of those that matter!!!!!

[Bernard Shakey]

Well done Jack Steele
Rd 20

ST KILDA v WEST COAST
10 Jack Steele (StK)
5 Josh Kennedy (WC)
4 Luke Dunstan (StK)
4 Billy Longer (StK)
3 Jack Billings (StK)
3 Shannon Hurn (WC)
1 Koby Stevens (StK)

So let's work this out:

Steele 5 from each;
Kennedy 4 and 1;
Dunstan 2 and 2;
Longer 4;
Billings 3;
Hurn 3;
Stevens 1.

[saintbrat]

Well done Jack Steele
Rd 20

ST KILDA v WEST COAST
10 Jack Steele (StK)
5 Josh Kennedy (WC)
4 Luke Dunstan (StK)
4 Billy Longer (StK)
3 Jack Billings (StK)
3 Shannon Hurn (WC)
1 Koby Stevens (StK)

So let's work this out:

Steele 5 from each;
Kennedy 4 and 1;
Dunstan 2 and 2;
Longer 4;
Billings 3;
Hurn 3;
Stevens 1.

or
Steele- 5 + 5
Kenedy 3 + 2
Dunstan 4
Longer 4
Billings 3
Hurn 2 + 1
Stevens 1

[saintbrat]

More votes for Billy
I have yet to see the game - beat Gawn

Rd 21
MELBOURNE v ST KILDA
9 Nathan Jones (Melb)
7 Cameron Pedersen (Melb)
5 James Harmes (Melb)
4 Billy Longer (St K)
4 Clayton Oliver (Melb)
1 Jordan Lewis (Melb)

[Proph3t of egan]

did a quick tally of saints players votes (# of games polled in)
Ross 50 (9)
Steven 35 (6)
Billings 34 (6)
Robbo 22 (6)
Longer 18 (5)
Rooey 14 (3)
Steele 14 (2)
Membrey 11 (5)
Dunstan 11 (4)
Carlisle 11 (2)
Joey 10 (2)
Stevens 10 (3)
Webster 8 (3)
Geary 6 (2)
Bruce 4 (1)
Gresham 2 (1)
Brown 2 (1)
Sinclair 1 (1)

two ripper games from steven or Billings and they could take the cake

[saintbrat]

it would seem the votes have gone ' in camera'

[MickThomas]

it would seem the votes have gone ' in camera'

I can't find it either on the AFL site

[saintbrat]

it would seem the votes have gone ' in camera'

I can't find it either on the AFL site

they used to go 'Offline" about 4-5 weeks out and then last year they actually put them up right to rd 23

this year appear to have kept them aside again-

[saintbrat]

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/co ... -for-2017/

what a surprise Martin won

LEADERBOARD
104 — DUSTIN MARTIN (RICH)
99 — PATRICK DANGERFIELD (GEEL)
69 — TOM MITCHELL (HAW)
69 — RORY SLOANE (ADEL)
67 — ZACH MERRETT (ESS)
66 — CLAYTON OLIVER (MELB)
66 — DAYNE ZORKO (BRIS)
65 — MARCUS BONTEMPELLI (WB)
65 — JOSH KELLY (GWS)
61 — GARY ABLETT (GC)
61 — JOEL SELWOOD (GEEL)

Saints last 2 rounds
Rd 22 ST KILDA V NORTH MELBOURNE
10 Steven (StK),
8 Ross (StK),
5 Cunnington (NM),
5 Dunstan (StK),
1 Garner (NM),
1 Gresham (StK)


Rd 23 ICHMOND V ST KILDA
10 Martin (Rich),
7 Townsend (Rich),
5 Grigg (Rich),
4 Vlastuin (Rich),
2 Cotchin (Rich),
2 Gresham (StK)

Gresh making a run for young Player of the year?

which will also be announced tonight

[saintbrat]

Clayton Oliver of melbourne Young player of the year- taken over 2 years
22 games this year 10 last year

[Jacks Back]

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/co ... -for-2017/

what a surprise Martin won

LEADERBOARD
104 — DUSTIN MARTIN (RICH)
99 — PATRICK DANGERFIELD (GEEL)
69 — TOM MITCHELL (HAW)
69 — RORY SLOANE (ADEL)
67 — ZACH MERRETT (ESS)
66 — CLAYTON OLIVER (MELB)
66 — DAYNE ZORKO (BRIS)
65 — MARCUS BONTEMPELLI (WB)
65 — JOSH KELLY (GWS)
61 — GARY ABLETT (GC)
61 — JOEL SELWOOD (GEEL)

Saints last 2 rounds
Rd 22 ST KILDA V NORTH MELBOURNE
10 Steven (StK),
8 Ross (StK),
5 Cunnington (NM),
5 Dunstan (StK),
1 Garner (NM),
1 Gresham (StK)


Rd 23 ICHMOND V ST KILDA
10 Martin (Rich),
7 Townsend (Rich),
5 Grigg (Rich),
4 Vlastuin (Rich),
2 Cotchin (Rich),
2 Gresham (StK)

Gresh making a run for young Player of the year?

which will also be announced tonight

Not sure where the above came from but Seb Ross finished equal 8th:

2017 Shadforth Financial Group AFLCA Champion Player
1. Dustin Martin (Richmond) 122
2. Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong) 118
3. Rory Sloane (Adelaide) 78
4. Zach Merrett (Essendon) 77
5. Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn) 76
6. Josh Kelly (Greater Western Sydney) 75
7. Clayton Oliver (Melbourne) 71
8. Matt Crouch (Adelaide) 68
8. Seb Ross (St Kilda) 68
8. Dayne Zorko (Brisbane Lions) 68

[desertsaint]

if POE's tally above is correct that means the final tally is:
Ross 58 (10)
Steven 45 (7)
Billings 34 (6)
Robbo 22 (6)
Longer 18 (5)
Dunstan 16 (5)
Rooey 14 (3)
Steele 14 (2)
Membrey 11 (5)
Carlisle 11 (2)
Joey 10 (2)
Stevens 10 (3)
Webster 8 (3)
Geary 6 (2)
Gresha 5 (3)
Bruce 4 (1)
Brown 2 (1)
Sinclair 1 (1)

[saintbrat]

Congrats Seb

That list came from link