2017. Excited? Fearful? Both?

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2017. Excited? Fearful? Both?

Postby damienc » Mon 20 Feb 2017 8:23am

2017. There is a Chinese curse that goes something like this. May you live in interesting times. There is no other way to describe the season we are about to have.

Should we be excited? Fearful? Or a mixture of both? The heart says the former but the head definitely says the latter.

Excited. Here’s why. On paper we are a better side than 2016. We went within a whisker of playing finals football. Ok. We lost Chips but gained Carlisle and Brown. Two very experienced, big-bodied defenders. Carlisle is versatile enough to play forward or back but prefers back.

Brown can play on big named forwards and beat them. Our midfield has some serious grunt now. Koby Stevens and Jack Steele both love the hard ball. The hard tackling , contested stuff on the inside. We haven’t had that before. It was a weakness in our game. It should be a weakness no longer.

Paddy McCartin and Jack Billings both had one helluva pre season. Both look strong and fit. Both look ready to have breakout seasons barring injury. Paddy looks like he’s put on much needed upper body size, which should help him avoid debilitating concussions, fingers crossed.

Richo keeps talking up Ben Long who, unfortunately, was sick and didn’t play in the intra club. The powers that be seem to like Long because he is able to step up his game as the quality of the opponentry improves. So he is (maybe) one to get excited about. I am not even going to say much about the young improvers, White, Acres, Ross, Newnes, DMack, Sinclair, Webster, Lonie etc They speak for themselves and have done in the past.

Fearful. Seriously. Is it a glass half full? Or half empty? Brown needs to re learn skills. Play Saints footy. Can he do it and be a meaningful contributor every week? Is a year out of footy too big a gap for Carlisle? Will our midfield gel with the new arrivals. These are all important questions. We won’t know until the season gets underway. Not long before we get answers to those questions. Back to being excited.
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Postby saintspremiers » Mon 20 Feb 2017 8:45am

A lot of fluff and bubble in that post.

We have a harder FIXture so we need to improve a good 20% form 2016 to play finals you'd think.

Excited is about improving IMO.

I'm excited if we make the finals. Of we win a final that's a bonus

End of story.
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Postby prwilkinson » Mon 20 Feb 2017 9:58am

I'm both... but then I think... the picks were great... the trades were great... it's been an excellent preseason from the guys that are in that young blossoming age group... sigh... just relax and enjoy the show. Plus, whatever happens we've already got 2 first rounders locked away and salary space waiting at the season's end.... Go Saints.
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Postby White Winmar » Mon 20 Feb 2017 11:11am

I'm excited!!!!!
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Postby matrix » Mon 20 Feb 2017 11:56am

Just bring on some f****** football!!!!
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Postby saynta » Mon 20 Feb 2017 12:00pm

Excited?

Not sure.

At my age it's more likely to be a gun in my pocket.
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Postby saintspremiers » Mon 20 Feb 2017 12:28pm

White Winmar wrote:I'm excited!!!!!


Thanks Kev
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Postby SMS » Mon 20 Feb 2017 12:54pm

Be VERY EXCITED. Nick Reiwoldt will hold that cup up!!!~ maybe not in 2017 but defo in 2018. Have you not seen the top 22? We have a top 34 now and with synerg between players (and fyfe or Martin), 2018 will be amazing.
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Postby spert » Mon 20 Feb 2017 12:56pm

Three key areas that stopped us getting into the eight last year, need to be improved this season- consistency from the midfield, strength in the backline, disposal into the forward line(disposal in general)
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Postby asiu » Mon 20 Feb 2017 6:53pm

we'll be better in '18 '19 'n '20 than '17

thats got a touch of the excitings about it.
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Postby Zed » Mon 20 Feb 2017 9:45pm

Our mids and forwards will be slightly better, our defence I think will be same same. Based on what I saw in the intra Brown will struggle to hold down a spot all year - and going to take a while for Jake to find his mojo.

Fixture is harder and Melb , Coll, Essendon, Richmond lists are arguably stronger than last year plus you have the wild cards of Port & Freo who could potentially find some belief and form - or not.

Postives are balanced out by negatives - so similar ladder position. Finishing ladder position 8-10
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Postby Gershwin » Tue 21 Feb 2017 3:14am

I honestly can't see why we can't win it this year. Need to start the season off with that attitude and no 'blooding young players', 'looking to the future' etc until we are out of the running. Select the team most likely to win each week. It is honestly a take it week-by-week sort of year and if we can be in the running late in the season then anything can happen.
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Postby saintspremiers » Tue 21 Feb 2017 5:47am

Gershwin wrote:I honestly can't see why we can't win it this year. Need to start the season off with that attitude and no 'blooding young players', 'looking to the future' etc until we are out of the running. Select the team most likely to win each week. It is honestly a take it week-by-week sort of year and if we can be in the running late in the season then anything can happen.


Win what? The JLT comp??

There's no first prize for that buddy.

You don't seriously mean winning the flag?

Or are you having a few late night vinos!

Don't you understand our FIXture is a lot tougher than last year?

How does a team go from not making the eight one year to winning 3 finals in a row?
Even bloody Footscray didn't come out of the clouds like that - they finished 6th in 2015
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Postby SaintPav » Tue 21 Feb 2017 6:49am

Why do we have the third hardest draw after finishing ninth?

I might be able to accept this if we finished fifth or sixth but we didn't even make the 8.

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Postby st.byron » Tue 21 Feb 2017 8:12am

Gershwin wrote:I honestly can't see why we can't win it this year.


The lid is off......
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Postby Vazelos » Tue 21 Feb 2017 9:47am

Excited!! One step closer to the 2018-20 window!!!
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Postby 8bloggs » Tue 21 Feb 2017 1:26pm

Definitely not fearful. A little excited and cautiously optimistic.
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Postby White Winmar » Tue 21 Feb 2017 2:50pm

We have the third hardest draw? Says who? Some ponce at the HS? That analysis is based on last year's finishing order, not what's going to happen this year. Who knows how "hard" the draw is, until the thing has been run and won. For all we know, it could be the easiest. Anything for copy at this time of year. Bring it on. We're going to make the eight and give the whole thing a mighty shake. I was roundly pilloried for suggesting we'd win 11 games last year. Show some faith, sainters. We're right in the mix, tough draw or not.
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Postby kosifantutti » Wed 22 Feb 2017 7:35am

If we're good enough the draw won't matter. We'll finish on top and win every final.
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Postby Sainter_Dad » Wed 22 Feb 2017 5:32pm

Round 9 last year - an upcoming game against Norf would have been rated a difficult game - by the time we played them - it was rated winnable.

In last years FIXture Freo would have been rated a difficult before the year started - at the bye - easy beats

No way of telling at all - except - if we beat every team every week - we will make the 8!
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Re: 2017. Excited? Fearful? Both?

Postby White Winmar » Wed 22 Feb 2017 6:27pm

Sainter_Dad wrote:Round 9 last year - an upcoming game against Norf would have been rated a difficult game - by the time we played them - it was rated winnable.

In last years FIXture Freo would have been rated a difficult before the year started - at the bye - easy beats

No way of telling at all - except - if we beat every team every week - we will make the 8!

Plus one, SD. How can anyone say with any certainty how hard the draw will be? So many confounding variables. Not even a professor of mathematics, specialising in probability would be game to bet his lefty on it. Let the year unfold. One thing I know for sure is we are a good chance to win any game this year, unlike some of yesteryear. I'm excited!
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Postby BigMart » Thu 23 Feb 2017 5:42am

I'm fearful because I'm excited
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Postby Gershwin » Mon 13 Mar 2017 6:16am

st.byron wrote:
Gershwin wrote:I honestly can't see why we can't win it this year.


The lid is off......

Can't find any reason to change my thinking.

Our best is good enough and we have the depth to cover injuries.
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Postby WellardSaint » Wed 15 Mar 2017 4:19pm

I think 14 wins.
Swans are tough and we can't beat them, Eagles in Perth- loss, Eagles at ES we may lose,
Giants- loss, Crows- loss, Norf 50/50, Power- loss, GC -loss,
Bulldogs 50/50 (yes, I know we beat em last year but I think they'll have us)
Would be rapt with 14.
It's not a tough draw, look at all the ES games.
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Postby mr six o'clock » Wed 15 Mar 2017 4:46pm

damienc wrote:2017. There is a Chinese curse that goes something like this. May you live in interesting times.



I prefer the old Confucius saying , Man who go to bed with itchy bottom wake with smelly finger !
Both sayings exciting yet fearful .
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