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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby LTN16 » Sat 18 Jun 2016 2:05am

No big loss missing out. Womens football will be the biggest flop and won't last.

Who really enjoys watching it? It's just not the same..
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby Life Long Saint » Sat 18 Jun 2016 2:51pm

LTN16 wrote:No big loss missing out. Womens football will be the biggest flop and won't last.

Who really enjoys watching it? It's just not the same..

Don't know about a flop but it will clearly be at a suburban standard at best.
The difference between AFL and VFL is huge. The difference between VFL and suburban is huge.

It is the same thing as women's cricket. Games can be close but the fast bowling and power hitting isn't there.

Golf is the one sport where it is enjoyable to watch the women play. As you don't have to hit it a long way to be good (although it can help)...yes they play on a shorter course but the quality of golf is excellent.

Back to Women's AFL...Good on the league for getting behind it and providing a pathway for young ladies to continue the sport after junior level...but I, too, have my reservations about its appeal to a wider audience.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby degruch » Mon 20 Jun 2016 10:32am

In light of Ed's recent comments, maybe they can revoke Collingwood's team license and give it to a more worthy team? Unfortunately, thanks to Spud, we've been dragged into the whole stupid situation too...even when we're not directly involved we still end up getting shot!
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby Moods » Mon 20 Jun 2016 5:14pm

Life Long Saint wrote:
LTN16 wrote:No big loss missing out. Womens football will be the biggest flop and won't last.

Who really enjoys watching it? It's just not the same..

Don't know about a flop but it will clearly be at a suburban standard at best.
The difference between AFL and VFL is huge. The difference between VFL and suburban is huge.



When you say Suburban, I hope you don't mean mens suburban. I would expect E grade amateur teams to account for them easily.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby saintbrat » Wed 22 Feb 2017 9:08pm

as we move through the first AFLW season I Know the saints were disappointed to not get a licence read that they were lead to believe they would have a provisional licence.
I heard early this week that it is understood the AFL are strongly considering pushing any increase in the number of teams out to 2019- and not 2018

Matt Finnis spoke of the Saints Current Plans in regards to this in an interview with the "Outer Sanctum' podcast group
Saints to play a Womens exhibition game later in 2017
- 43- 59 minute mark on the link below

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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby saintspremiers » Wed 22 Feb 2017 9:24pm

Getting Moorabbin up and running ASAP and playing some Sandy games at MoorAbin should be a bigger focus
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby sunsaint » Wed 22 Feb 2017 9:38pm

saintspremiers wrote:Getting Moorabbin up and running ASAP and playing some Sandy games at MoorAbin should be a bigger focus

surely the two would go hand in hand - surely
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby Life Long Saint » Thu 23 Feb 2017 9:44am

saintspremiers wrote:Getting Moorabbin up and running ASAP and playing some Sandy games at MoorAbin should be a bigger focus

And renaming them from the Zebras to the Saints...Getting colours aligned too.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby saintbrat » Tue 09 May 2017 6:11pm

AFL not expanding till 2019

But Saints and other melbourne/ Victorian teams will be / Maybe

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-09/a ... on-in-2019

Geelong and St Kilda had lobbied hard to be included in the 2018 competition, but the AFL wants a year of consolidation after a successful first season.

The AFL has identified talent identification and development, and building the fan base as priorities before adding to the eight-club competition made up this year of Adelaide, Brisbane Lions, Carlton, Collingwood, Fremantle, Greater Western Sydney, Melbourne and Western Bulldogs.

The 10 remaining clubs will be invited to bid for inclusion, with priority given to Geelong, St Kilda, North Melbourne, Richmond, St Kilda and West Coast, which were given provisional licenses last year.

A decision on expansion for 2019 is expected by the middle of this year to give the new teams, broadcasters and the wider industry time to prepare for the third AFLW season. "
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby saintbrat » Tue 09 May 2017 9:55pm

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2017-05-0 ... aflw-entry

“We see an AFLW team as an enormous part our future and the future of female sport in our community - from Port Melbourne all the way to Portsea.

“Having a St Kilda team competing in AFLW is vitally important to continuing the current huge growth we are seeing in women’s football in Bayside Melbourne, where the number of sporting options for boys and girls are many.

“One of the biggest obstacles facing all female sports is maintaining participation numbers as girls transition from junior competitions to senior levels.

“Creating a clear, aspirational pathway from Auskick, to junior football, to an elite senior women’s team in Bayside Melbourne will be essential for the long-term future of female football in Victoria.

“When complete next year, our RSEA Park training and administration base at Moorabbin will provide a new home for the South Metro Junior Football League, which has 75 girls-only teams in 2017 (up from 33 last year).

“The new facility will also have the capacity to house a St Kilda women’s team and host AFLW matches.”

Finnis said the AFL’s decision to put off expanding the competition to the 2019 season was disappointing given the momentum currently surrounding the women’s game.

“As a club we are disappointed that our provisional licence has not been upgraded to a full license today with the AFL opting to hold off expansion until 2019,” he said.

“We are of the firm belief that the time was right to expand the competition immediately, and capitalise on the current interest and momentum in women’s football.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby saintbrat » Tue 26 Sep 2017 10:16pm

word is Tigers may miss

then word from Caro suggests only 2 new teams not the 4 earlier mooted.

with Tassie the option chosen? North Mel

Tasmania looms as a big winner as the AFL prepares to expand the AFL Women's competition in readiness for 2019, with the long-neglected football state set to win a national licence in a joint bid with North Melbourne.

Geelong are the other hot favourite for a new licence after the commission reached a decision early on Monday. While the Cats remained unclear regarding their fate, the strength of the Geelong bid is understood to have enhanced the club's chances.

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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby St Chris » Tue 26 Sep 2017 10:18pm

Caro reporting the Roos and Geelong will be the only 2 teams added in 2019, with West Coast getting the next licence after that....

Seriously, without a women’s team, a VFL team, a blockbuster game, or a reasonable deal with our home ground, I fear for our clubs future in the next decade. We will just drift off into oblivion, without some agressive work from head office. I’m beginning to think Mr Nice Guy Finnis isn’t the man to turn this around.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby Enrico_Misso » Tue 26 Sep 2017 11:00pm

So much for us being ahead of the curve with Peta Searle.
In the end the AFL snubbed us.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby Sainternist » Wed 27 Sep 2017 2:18am

Enrico_Misso wrote:So much for us being ahead of the curve with Peta Searle.
In the end the AFL snubbed us.
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Apparently North Melbourne and Tasmania are more relevant than us.

The AFL are screwing us good and proper! :evil:
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby prwilkinson » Wed 27 Sep 2017 9:36am

Enrico_Misso wrote:So much for us being ahead of the curve with Peta Searle.
In the end the AFL snubbed us.
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Not sure if they snubbed us.. The club just needs the new Moorabbin precinct to be finished. If it were ready, I'd say we'd have gotten a team given the female participation levels around the Bayside area.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby saynta » Wed 27 Sep 2017 11:59am

LTN16 wrote:No big loss missing out. Womens football will be the biggest flop and won't last.

Who really enjoys watching it? It's just not the same..



I agree, It's just a PC fad.

Bit like a yo-yo, rub-ix cube. and that finger spinning crap.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby parkeysainter » Wed 27 Sep 2017 12:04pm

Just curious.

Do any females actually participate in this forum and website?!
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby saintbrat » Wed 27 Sep 2017 12:41pm

plenty
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team

Postby saintbrat » Wed 27 Sep 2017 12:47pm

Geelong and North Melbourne confirmed for 2019

the Rest ( other 4 teams who applied ) including the Saints 2020
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JUST IN | Geelong and North Melbourne will join the AFLW in 2019. Gold Coast, West Coast, St Kilda and Richmond will join in 2020.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team( now 2020)

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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team( now 2020)

Postby parkeysainter » Wed 27 Sep 2017 12:54pm

Awesome. I think it will be good for the club. It will increase profits, membership and the female supporter base. Would be cool if they played at Moorabbin.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team( now 2020)

Postby The_Merchant » Wed 27 Sep 2017 1:00pm

Disappointing that we have to wait, but awesome that we will have a team. Hopefully there will be some equalisation measures in place so we can compete with the established teams.
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team( now 2020)

Postby Proph3t of egan » Wed 27 Sep 2017 1:04pm

Seriously, after all the campaigning and effort the club put into trying to get a team, and we still get overlooked for the most irrelevant club in the league (north)
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team( now 2020)

Postby saint64 » Wed 27 Sep 2017 1:58pm

Proph3t of egan wrote:Seriously, after all the campaigning and effort the club put into trying to get a team, and we still get overlooked for the most irrelevant club in the league (north)

Apparently "North Melbourne aligned its bid with Tasmania and the new AFLW team is set to host matches in that state", so I guess from that perspective the decision makes sense. Still disappointing though. I worry that we are dropping behind the clubs that do have women's teams, because I assume they are getting extra funding that can then be used for both men's and women's teams. I am surprised by the comments by some on this forum that see women's footy as a passing fad and not watchable because its not the same standard as men's footy. Who would people rather watch at the moment - the Socceroos or the Matildas?
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Re: St Kilda applies for a Womens Football team( now 2020)

Postby saintbrat » Wed 27 Sep 2017 2:28pm

Bonus in the detail
“One in four female players in Victoria currently live and play in Bayside Melbourne, making it arguably the single strongest region for women’s football in Australia.



“The current redevelopment of St Kilda’s new training and administrative base at RSEA Park (Moorabbin Reserve) will be completed in 2018, becoming the home of the Saints, local community football leagues and the Sandringham Dragons.

“The return of elite level football through AFLW matches to our spiritual home will be a momentous occasion for our club.

“The facility will also play an important role in the continued growth of women’s football and complete an aspirational pathway in the region.

“In the coming weeks, we will confirm our involvement in the VFL Women’s 2018 season, which will provide the region’s best female footballers with an opportunity to fast-track their development.

“We will also work with the AFL to ensure a St Kilda AFLW team has access to the players developed through the club’s pathway programs to ensure we are a formidable force in 2020.”
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