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Re: Essendope

Postby Linton Lodger » Sun 12 Mar 2017 5:00pm

sunsaint wrote:
IanRush wrote:
6621104 wrote:going great guns there numpty- until "serendipitously". Only defrocked bleeding heart liberals would know what that means.


Gee you get scared when we are on the trail. Who are you? Who or what are you trying to protect?

Rational thought
Accreditable facts
A Stkilda forum
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This is relevant to a footy forum.

These are issues regarding the integrity of the competition that our Club is a part of.

Essendon have cheated, tried to cover it up and now it appears they tried to engage the services of a gangster (oh sorry, I meant mediator or colourful Carlton identity) to fix their problems. A few weeks ago, when the EFC would have been aware of Wallis and Elliott's allegations, Senator Kitching, who's form for fraud and perjury is on the Public Record, tries to launch a Senate Enquiry into ASADA and the AFL. Kitching and her husband (and organ grinder) Andrew Landeryou are members of the EFC.

It is a well known fact that Bolt is obsessed with Kitching (he must really be a monumental f'wit!). I haven't heard this from someone down the pub, I have heard it from two people, one of them a News Ltd journalist, who witnessed (a pissed) Andrew Bolt chasing Kitching around a table at a function in a shall we say, a lusty manner. It is a well known but not publicised fact, in political and media circles that they're involved.

Bolt rails against anything slightly left of far right, he's a far right propagandist, yet he shamelessly sings the praises of and promotes Kitchin. Despite it been common knowledge that she's a fraudster and not to mention, a complete moron.
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Re: Essendope

Postby 6621104 » Sun 12 Mar 2017 9:15pm

Oh dear, numpty channeling the trumpster and doing well until he used a word with more than 3 syllables and so stepped out of character and the thin skinned ones look for something more! Satire clearly lost on some
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Re: Essendope

Postby The OtherThommo » Mon 13 Mar 2017 1:11am

6621104 wrote:Oh dear, numpty channeling the trumpster and doing well until he used a word with more than 3 syllables and so stepped out of character and the thin skinned ones look for something more! Satire clearly lost on some


You should have whacked on a couple of extra !!!!'s, just for effect - we thin skinned types need bludgeoning to be made aware of the brilliance of our betters.

You want more than 3 syllables? Try this - floxinoxinihilipilification.

Know what it means?

"Worthless, useless".

Thought to only have ever been used in a book once, by Blanche d'Alpuget (there's a certain irony in Hawke's 2nd wife using it).

As previously advised, you've been wrong from the get go, you have a Leyonhelm like devotion to the stupidity of excess 'freedumbs' (not a vet, are ya?), but you keep sticking your bonce above the parapets, and you really do make the shootin' easy.

Let me put that another way - you, as a claimed and supposed man of science, a man of Medicine! no less, let us pray, repeatedly claim to "know", yet have not offered up one iota of evidence that you know anything, about anything. You have carried no arguments, given no one cause for pause, made no one wonder, informed not a single interested person, woken no one to any essential wrong.

You, wizard, exemplify the larger problem.

As for 'satire clearly being lost on some' - what's clear is you would not get real satire even if it was presented by Sartre.
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Re: Essendope

Postby The OtherThommo » Mon 13 Mar 2017 1:35am

sunsaint wrote:
IanRush wrote:
6621104 wrote:going great guns there numpty- until "serendipitously". Only defrocked bleeding heart liberals would know what that means.


Gee you get scared when we are on the trail. Who are you? Who or what are you trying to protect?

Rational thought
Accreditable facts
A Stkilda forum
....


Strewth, you're back again. Where ya bin?

You're another one who rabbits on about about "rational thought", but exhibits not a jot of understanding as to what it actually means. Rational thought feeds reasoned argument - make one, just for a change.

As for "accreditable facts", got any yourself, or do you fancy challenging the accreditable fact that the Esendon F.C. has a solid and documented history of involving themselves with rooly, rooly accreditable criminals?

As for a St.Kilda forum - dead right, and up to page 1051.

Alternatively to all that - why bother, again, after so, so long? Something missing, generally?
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Re: Essendope

Postby The OtherThommo » Mon 13 Mar 2017 1:42am

Linton Lodger wrote:
sunsaint wrote:
IanRush wrote:
6621104 wrote:going great guns there numpty- until "serendipitously". Only defrocked bleeding heart liberals would know what that means.


Gee you get scared when we are on the trail. Who are you? Who or what are you trying to protect?

Rational thought
Accreditable facts
A Stkilda forum
....


This is relevant to a footy forum.

These are issues regarding the integrity of the competition that our Club is a part of.

Essendon have cheated, tried to cover it up and now it appears they tried to engage the services of a gangster (oh sorry, I meant mediator or colourful Carlton identity) to fix their problems. A few weeks ago, when the EFC would have been aware of Wallis and Elliott's allegations, Senator Kitching, who's form for fraud and perjury is on the Public Record, tries to launch a Senate Enquiry into ASADA and the AFL. Kitching and her husband (and organ grinder) Andrew Landeryou are members of the EFC.

It is a well known fact that Bolt is obsessed with Kitching (he must really be a monumental f'wit!). I haven't heard this from someone down the pub, I have heard it from two people, one of them a News Ltd journalist, who witnessed (a pissed) Andrew Bolt chasing Kitching around a table at a function in a shall we say, a lusty manner. It is a well known but not publicised fact, in political and media circles that they're involved.

Bolt rails against anything slightly left of far right, he's a far right propagandist, yet he shamelessly sings the praises of and promotes Kitchin. Despite it been common knowledge that she's a fraudster and not to mention, a complete moron.


Serious nod to your 2nd line, LL - nutshell. Always been the case, since Feb 2013.
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Re: Essendope

Postby 6621104 » Mon 13 Mar 2017 8:42am

The OtherThommo wrote:[quote

As for 'satire clearly being lost on some' - what's clear is you would not get real satire even if it was presented by Sartre.


Was it not Satre who said " only the guy who is not rowing has time to rock the boat" - As for rationality and reason, numpty's brief satirical foray into this wearisome thread clearly went over the head of some. As you have since proven.
As for Satre, yes an alliterative illusion only, he took himself too seriously for satire.
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Re: Essendope

Postby The OtherThommo » Tue 14 Mar 2017 8:08pm

For someone who continues to suggest this is all just so "wearisome", you just keep on coming back - which makes me wonder if you might just be one of these;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlpETyqweE

Also relevant in the current context, and not just locally - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPlMmwOq7U8 (Note the porky organised crime cap'n at the bar).

Possibly even relevant to yourself - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbfQPRgcS8

A Kinky version/tribute to the work of the same songmeister - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYEhir_PRSA - doctor or patient, yourself?

Died way too young, Wozza.

Unlike Satre, who I doubt pursued any athletic pursuits, including rowing (he did enter the Frog armed forces as a meteorologist - existentialism much?). But, he did do a fine line in contradiction, if your attribution referring to only non-rowers being those who had time to rock the boat;

"Sartre went to Cuba in the 1960s to meet Fidel Castro and spoke with Ernesto "Che" Guevara. After Guevara's death, Sartre would declare him to be "not only an intellectual but also the most complete human being of our age"[40] and the "era's most perfect man."

Che rowed really, really hard, and rocked the boat.
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Re: Essendope

Postby saynta » Tue 14 Mar 2017 8:15pm

White Winmar wrote:
saynta wrote:
oh when the wrote:Is it legal to tape a conversation without consent


Not in some states.

ie ACT legislation.

art 2
Offences
4
Use of listening devices
(1) A person must not use a liste
ning device with th
e intention of—
(a) listening to or recording a
private conversation to which the
person is not a party; or
(b) recording a private conversati
on to which the person is a party.
Maximum penalty: 50 penalty units.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to—
(a) the use of a listening device
under an authority granted by or
under a law of the Commonwealth; or
(b) the unintentional hearing of
a private conversation by means of
a listening device.
(3) Subsection (1) (b) does not apply
to the use of a listening device by,
or on behalf of, a party to
a private conversation if—
(a) each principal party to the conversation consents to that use of
the listening device; or
(b) a principal party to the conversation consents to the listening
device being so used, and—
(i) the recording of the conve
rsation is considered by that
principal party, on reasonable
grounds, to be necessary
for the protection of that princi
pal party’s lawful interests;
or
(ii) the recording is not made for the purpose of
communicating or publishing th
e conversation, or a report
of the conversation, to any pe
rson who is not a party to
the conversation.

Wasn't the difference in ACT law designed to protect Lionel "my little mate" Murphy? Judge, government minister etc. His skullduggery threatened to destroy the government. Hence the change to protect him and scuttle the chances of prosecution based on some damning recordings.


I dont think so, but you could be right.

Will go back and look at the date of the legislation
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Re: Essendope

Postby 6621104 » Tue 14 Mar 2017 8:38pm

It's up to the mods where this goes, now real footy is to start. I will leave this thread to TOT and Ian Rush. I've had my fun.
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Re: Essendope

Postby SaintPav » Tue 14 Mar 2017 9:35pm

6621104 wrote:
The OtherThommo wrote:[quote

As for 'satire clearly being lost on some' - what's clear is you would not get real satire even if it was presented by Sartre.


Was it not Satre who said " only the guy who is not rowing has time to rock the boat" - As for rationality and reason, numpty's brief satirical foray into this wearisome thread clearly went over the head of some. As you have since proven.
As for Satre, yes an alliterative illusion only, he took himself too seriously for satire.


Sartre also said that hell is other people but I prefer Wittgenstein's take that hell is yourself.

Think that some would know more than others.
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Re: Essendope

Postby Con Gorozidis » Tue 14 Mar 2017 10:25pm

SaintPav wrote:
6621104 wrote:
The OtherThommo wrote:[quote

As for 'satire clearly being lost on some' - what's clear is you would not get real satire even if it was presented by Sartre.


Was it not Satre who said " only the guy who is not rowing has time to rock the boat" - As for rationality and reason, numpty's brief satirical foray into this wearisome thread clearly went over the head of some. As you have since proven.
As for Satre, yes an alliterative illusion only, he took himself too seriously for satire.


Sartre also said that hell is other people but I prefer Wittgenstein's take that hell is yourself.

Think that some would know more than others.


Id be one of those :D

Didnt Sartre say something like 'the thing that complicates football is the existence of the other team'?
Cant argue with that.
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Re: Essendope

Postby SaintPav » Wed 15 Mar 2017 7:58am

Con Gorozidis wrote:
SaintPav wrote:
6621104 wrote:
The OtherThommo wrote:[quote

As for 'satire clearly being lost on some' - what's clear is you would not get real satire even if it was presented by Sartre.


Was it not Satre who said " only the guy who is not rowing has time to rock the boat" - As for rationality and reason, numpty's brief satirical foray into this wearisome thread clearly went over the head of some. As you have since proven.
As for Satre, yes an alliterative illusion only, he took himself too seriously for satire.


Sartre also said that hell is other people but I prefer Wittgenstein's take that hell is yourself.

Think that some would know more than others.


Id be one of those :D

Didnt Sartre say something like 'the thing that complicates football is the existence of the other team'?
Cant argue with that.


He maybe would have been disgusted with that because without the other team it wouldn't be much of a game.

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Re: Essendope

Postby White Winmar » Wed 15 Mar 2017 12:04pm

It wasn't Wittgenstein, SP. It was Andrew O'Keefe.
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Re: Essendope

Postby saynta » Wed 15 Mar 2017 1:10pm

White Winmar wrote:
saynta wrote:
oh when the wrote:Is it legal to tape a conversation without consent


Not in some states.

ie ACT legislation.

art 2
Offences
4
Use of listening devices
(1) A person must not use a liste
ning device with th
e intention of—
(a) listening to or recording a
private conversation to which the
person is not a party; or
(b) recording a private conversati
on to which the person is a party.
Maximum penalty: 50 penalty units.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to—
(a) the use of a listening device
under an authority granted by or
under a law of the Commonwealth; or
(b) the unintentional hearing of
a private conversation by means of
a listening device.
(3) Subsection (1) (b) does not apply
to the use of a listening device by,
or on behalf of, a party to
a private conversation if—
(a) each principal party to the conversation consents to that use of
the listening device; or
(b) a principal party to the conversation consents to the listening
device being so used, and—
(i) the recording of the conve
rsation is considered by that
principal party, on reasonable
grounds, to be necessary
for the protection of that princi
pal party’s lawful interests;
or
(ii) the recording is not made for the purpose of
communicating or publishing th
e conversation, or a report
of the conversation, to any pe
rson who is not a party to
the conversation.

Wasn't the difference in ACT law designed to protect Lionel "my little mate" Murphy? Judge, government minister etc. His skullduggery threatened to destroy the government. Hence the change to protect him and scuttle the chances of prosecution based on some damning recordings.


Did my research mate, and the answer is no. It is an ACT Government Act brought in 3 years after self government and long after the Morgan Ryan matter you refer to.

Lionel once rang me. I will tell you about it when we catch up for that coffee.

Lionel wasn't above trying to help out his friends.

Interesting threesome Lionel, Morgan Ryan and Bruce Miles.
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Re: Essendope

Postby White Winmar » Wed 15 Mar 2017 2:37pm

Thanks, Saynta. Thought I might be drawing a long bow. It might have been NSW that changed secret recording laws after the Murphy kerfuffle. I remember the discussions about it. The mists of time have fogged my brain up!
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Re: Essendope

Postby saintbrat » Thu 16 Mar 2017 10:06pm

this will drag on some more now with Jimmy releasing his 'hurt' via a regular ' column'
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Re: Essendope

Postby Waltzing St Kilda » Thu 16 Mar 2017 10:33pm

saintbrat wrote:this will drag on some more now with Jimmy releasing his 'hurt' via a regular ' column'



Yet another reason to avoid buying The Hun.
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Re: Essendope

Postby SemperFidelis » Thu 16 Mar 2017 11:46pm

But then the Age republishes it. Ah, the road to redemption ...

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/james-hird ... v00i6.html


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Re: Essendope

Postby Numpty » Sat 18 Mar 2017 3:04pm

6621104 wrote:going great guns there numpty- until "serendipitously". Only defrocked bleeding heart liberals would know what that means.


Serendipitously??? No one around here even knew what a Serendipit was? (I only re-tweeted it.) Which just proves that you were right 6621104. There are no bleeding heart liberals around my House! And even less Socialists. :twisted: Believe me. Even my good friends at the CIA (whom I support 10000% btw, today) didn't know what one was.

Then, using my incredibly high IQ of 6621104 (btw 6621104 how did you know my IQ score?), I had a very clever idea. Very clever. Angular Merkin is visiting. She'd know. Mrs Merkin may not know much about immigration, being responsible for the second worst and most catastrophic deal ever. (That deal that Austrian guy did with Obama was the worst.) However, to be fair, folks do keep telling me that she thinks I'm hot. Well she's right, this time. European women with funny names always think I'm hot. And they are right. Every time. Believe me.

Now, let me tell you, David Duke was very concerned when Mrs Merkin told him about these Serendipits! Very concerned! (David always likes to visit my House when he knows that Germans will be here. He's a patriot, so I'm happy to humour him. Besides, it's good to look after one's constituency. Just in case America is still a democracy in four years time, and I have to campaign again.)

It seems a Serendipit is percussion instrument favoured by black Mexican muslims. Black Mexican muslims! That's unpatriotic. Very unpatriotic. Therefore, as you read this, I'm having my best people draft an executive order (I love executive orders, believe me) to remove them all from this nation! And believe me, they will be taking their goddamn Serendipits with them when they go. Believe me.

I am wondering though, why Mrs Merkin was smiling when she told my team about these Serendipits??? :? I mean, everyone knows that Germans have no sense of humour. None at all. Believe me.
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Re: Essendope

Postby The OtherThommo » Tue 21 Mar 2017 9:19am

Just the 9 years under wraps - http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/d ... v2j4u.html

I wonder if the same sort of findings had been made about our l'il ol' club would have seen the report sit in the company safe for 9 years.

Then, of course, there's "Whoosher". Hasn't he gone on? Ah, kultcha.

If only more would read and heed the likes of Oscar Wilde:

“Disobedience, in the eyes of any one who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and through rebellion.”

Of course, kultchas at work at institutions like the AFL don't much fancy the thinking of the likes of Oscar.

They very much prefer what the likes of Edward Bernays had to offer.
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Re: Essendope

Postby The OtherThommo » Tue 21 Mar 2017 9:31am

A follow up to the 4 Corners look at the progress in the 'complementary medicines' caper a few weeks back;

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politi ... uz8l5.html

As noted to the cohort yesterday;

"Dontcha just lurv ‘Industry bodies’? Can anyone think of any industry body that doesn’t advocate “self regulation”?

But, that’s not the real highlight – which would be this:

“Swisse, which is known for its aggressive marketing and celebrity endorsements including from Nicole Kidman, Ricky Ponting, supermodel Ashley Hart and chefs George Calombaris and Karen Martini, wants Australian diplomats to have specific knowledge of its products to better market products to Asia and other markets, allowing it and other businesses to take advantage of international trade agreements.”

Oh, f****** excellent – Jules Bishop going marquee to marquee at international polo shows, with her ‘handbag’ toddling along behind (min: 3 steps), lugging a suitcase full of Swisse St.Johns Wort, Ultiboost Prostate, Ultiboost Bladder and Menopause Balance.

Such developments (even if only wish lists) exemplify the total disdain held for health regulators and ‘consumers’, down here in Oz ‘civil society’.

Thankfully, The Age did request comment from the ‘star’ of the 4 Corners episode, Doc Ken Harvey."

And, I still can't seem to get an answer to the question "complementary to what?"

Excellent 4 Corners last night too, particularly if you have an interest in, and understand something of, 'risks and consequences'.
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Re: Essendope

Postby The OtherThommo » Tue 21 Mar 2017 9:52am

The Zelk's "Wylie Coyote" returns, pulling the levers of political power once again, just as he did in mid-2013 when he sought to 'negotiate' the shut down of ASADA's investigation.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-20/c ... ip/8370982

We seem to be well represented in this stoush, too.

All just more "bread and circuses", really.

One day, someone at the AOC, or within reasonable proximity, might like to respond to, even argue with, the very recent words of Dr Helen Caldicott, when she began her answer to one question on Fukushima with:

"Do not go to Japan". Do not under any circumstances take your children to Japan, because you don’t know what you’re eating and where the food is sourced…

And the Japanese are trying now to export their radioactive food to London and elsewhere. Taiwan has refused to receive it. But, it’s dangerous and it’s going to continue to be dangerous for the rest of time. It’s sad.”

Perhaps the Coyote might like to carry the argument to the good Doc. After all, he is still the head of the Australian Sports Commission.

Wilful ignorance of risks and consequences rules in many a sporting bureaucracy, and the corridors of political power.
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Re: Essendope

Postby Toy Saint » Tue 21 Mar 2017 10:13pm

So the report points out that Woosha was well aware of the West Coast drug culture....blind freddy could see it....the AFL never managed to acknowledge it....Kevin Bartlett reckons they should have a black line through their premership....the AFL remains quiet....Worsfold is appointed at Essendon....proven drug cheats in an international court....but found not guilty by the AFL.....and Worsfold is a pharamasist....an expert in drugs.....and the ALF.....well the AFL is incompetent at best or moraly bankrupt...or both...
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Re: Essendope

Postby supersaints » Tue 21 Mar 2017 10:22pm

Ive said all along that chemists are trained and easily detect drug addicts when they go into the pharmacy to buy drugs. Sadly I've known some ice addicts and they stand out like dogs balls, for Woosha to say he didn't know is absolute crap.

And I'll say again Ice is a performance enhancing.. makes you believe you are bullet proof and like superman, bit like Cousins looked after the grand final, looked like he believed he could play it over again,

He should have been banned for life ... not put in charge of the new druggies
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Re: Essendope

Postby White Winmar » Tue 21 Mar 2017 10:28pm

Toy Saint wrote:So the report points out that Woosha was well aware of the West Coast drug culture....blind freddy could see it....the AFL never managed to acknowledge it....Kevin Bartlett reckons they should have a black line through their premership....the AFL remains quiet....Worsfold is appointed at Essendon....proven drug cheats in an international court....but found not guilty by the AFL.....and Worsfold is a pharamasist....an expert in drugs.....and the ALF.....well the AFL is incompetent at best or moraly bankrupt...or both...

Both.
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