Why the lack of respect for Leigh Fisher?

cwrcyn · Post: # 473410Post **cwrcyn** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:04pm

I can't belive some people would be happy to move this guy on.

His first half of 2007 was excellent, and I would have put him in our top three or four players during that time. He did trail off a bit, but give the guy a break.

He's a really solid and dependable contributor - courageous, hard working, and reads the game well.

So he lacks genuine leg speed. So do many players.

This guy is a key element to our back half, and I'd be furious if he was traded for a second or third-tier player from another club (ie Schneider)

SaintBot · Post: # 473411Post **SaintBot** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:04pm

Sad Fact: Schneider > L.Fisher

Especially in our lineup

stinger · Post: # 473412Post **stinger** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:05pm

cwrcyn wrote:I can't belive some people would be happy to move this guy on.

His first half of 2007 was excellent, and I would have put him in our top three or four players during that time. He did trail off a bit, but give the guy a break.

He's a really solid and dependable contributor - courageous, hard working, and reads the game well.

So he lacks genuine leg speed. So do many players.

This guy is a key element to our back half, and I'd be furious if he was traded for a second or third-tier player from another club (ie Schneider)

i'm with you....that f-wit kenny would trade his own mother though........

Solar · Post: # 473417Post **Solar** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:06pm

not a lack of repsect from me, we just have more half backs then half forwards, thats what trades are for, fixing up the weaknesses in your squad.

stinger · Post: # 473418Post **stinger** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:06pm

SaintBot wrote:Sad Fact: Schneider > L.Fisher

Especially in our lineup

i don't believe that.....schneider has been told that he won't get a game next year....leigh certainly would...with us ..or the swine...schneider is just a footballer.....

SaintBot · Post: # 473423Post **SaintBot** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:09pm

stinger wrote:schneider has been told that he won't get a game next year

have you got a direct quote?

or are you believing what the media is pretending that they know?

Oh When the Saints · Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:10pm

Schenider has played basically every game in a team that made the last two Grand Finals.

He is in the most talented dozen players at the Swans, and in their starting 18 for every game he has played over the past three seasons.

Leigh Fisher is a slow back pocket. We have 4-5 players who can fill that role.

stinger · Post: # 473434Post **stinger** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:12pm

SaintBot wrote:
stinger wrote:schneider has been told that he won't get a game next year
have you got a direct quote?

or are you believing what the media is pretending that they know?

yeah there was a comment in the papers to that effect...ie...schneider wasn't keen to come south but was warming to the idea after roos tolds him that this prospects with the swine next year weren't too good......from sydney papers...and a reporter who writes a lot of crap on the sin city side......

cwrcyn · Post: # 473436Post **cwrcyn** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:13pm

Yep, I'll say it again.

Beware of the Sheldon factor. My memories of the draft periods of 1990, 1991, and 1992 haunted me for years.

Gee, who did he pass up? Only guys like Peter Matera and Michael Long, just to name a couple.

Read these names and weep

Jodi Arnol
Tony Antrobus
Steven Clarke
Brian Wilson
Darren Davies

There were a few others, but it pains me to continue

stinger · Post: # 473437Post **stinger** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:13pm

Oh When the Saints wrote:Schenider has played basically every game in a team that made the last two Grand Finals.

He is in the most talented dozen players at the Swans, and in their starting 18 for every game he has played over the past three seasons.

Leigh Fisher is a slow back pocket. We have 4-5 players who can fill that role.

yeah thats why bolten and him have been put on the open market......

Oh When the Saints · Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:15pm

cwrcyn wrote:Yep, I'll say it again.

Beware of the Sheldon factor. My memories of the draft periods of 1990, 1991, and 1992 haunted me for years.

Good thing Lyon and Peake are calling the shots then. Lyon has the power to over-rule Sheldon on all trades.

stinger · Post: # 473443Post **stinger** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:16pm

cwrcyn wrote:Yep, I'll say it again.

Beware of the Sheldon factor. My memories of the draft periods of 1990, 1991, and 1992 haunted me for years.

Gee, who did he pass up? Only guys like Peter Matera and Michael Long, just to name a couple.

Read these names and weep

Jodi Arnol
Tony Antrobus
Steven Clarke
Brian Wilson
Darren Davies

There were a few others, but it pains me to continue

spot on mate....

as i have said many many times...kenny and his f-wit mate peter husdson sold us down the river looking for a quick fix...took us 5 years to recover from their crap trades and selections........couple of real clowns....and i had first hand knowledge of their treachery.....

Oh When the Saints · Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:17pm

stinger wrote:
yeah thats why bolten and him have been put on the open market......

I'm not giving an opinion .... if Schneider was such a bad footballer, why then did he play 25 games in 2006 and 21 games in 2007?

The guy buried us with 3 last quarter goals in the 2005 Preliminary Final. He can win matches, and has pacy and aggression round the packs. Has a harder body and more speed than Stephen Milne, and wins more of the footy through the middle.

stinger · Post: # 473450Post **stinger** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:18pm

Oh When the Saints wrote:
cwrcyn wrote:Yep, I'll say it again.

Beware of the Sheldon factor. My memories of the draft periods of 1990, 1991, and 1992 haunted me for years.

Good thing Lyon and Peake are calling the shots then. Lyon has the power to over-rule Sheldon on all trades.

hope you are right mate.....kenny is a real problem,.....i have a one year old pup with more sense than that guy.......and even she is a bit slow.....not sure which one is sillier though......

Oh When the Saints · Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:19pm

I don't have much time for Sheldon either, but Lyon will make the calls. You never know, he might be even worse ...

stinger · Post: # 473454Post **stinger** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:19pm

Oh When the Saints wrote:
stinger wrote:
yeah thats why bolten and him have been put on the open market......
I'm not giving an opinion .... if Schneider was such a bad footballer, why then did he play 25 games in 2006 and 21 games in 2007?

The guy buried us with 3 last quarter goals in the 2005 Preliminary Final. He can win matches, and has pacy and aggression round the packs. Has a harder body and more speed than Stephen Milne, and wins more of the footy through the middle.

i can't answer that....but if he is as good as you say...why would they be so keen to offload him.....

SaintBot · Post: # 473456Post **SaintBot** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:19pm

stinger wrote:
SaintBot wrote:
stinger wrote:schneider has been told that he won't get a game next year
have you got a direct quote?

or are you believing what the media is pretending that they know?
yeah there was a comment in the papers to that effect...ie...schneider wasn't keen to come south but was warming to the idea after roos tolds him that this prospects with the swine next year weren't too good......from sydney papers...and a reporter who writes a lot of crap on the sin city side......

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 11,00.html

Both clubs were last night waiting for Schneider's approval. He was initially against leaving Sydney.

The 23-year-old is in Bali with his girlfriend, but is said to be warming to the idea after Swans coach Paul Roos made it clear he would be better off elsewhere.

could very easily be a guess - cant wait for this week to be over...or more-so i cant wait for a trade involving us

Oh When the Saints · Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:20pm

I don't know ... but it's not footballing ability.

stinger · Post: # 473462Post **stinger** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:24pm

SaintBot wrote:[

Both clubs were last night waiting for Schneider's approval. He was initially against leaving Sydney.

The 23-year-old is in Bali with his girlfriend, but is said to be warming to the idea after Swans coach Paul Roos made it clear he would be better off elsewhere.
could very easily be a guess - cant wait for this week to be over...

yep....and yep......

CeilidhSaint · Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:33pm

Leigh didn't fail the physical.
He was told to go home and sleep on it but today the deal fell through.
My biggest fear is that tomorrow the deals goes ahead.

Scoop · Post: # 473470Post **Scoop** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:33pm

Oh When the Saints wrote:
Good thing Lyon and Peake are calling the shots then.

....and Elshaugh!!

Oh When the Saints · Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:34pm

CeilidhSaint wrote:Leigh didn't fail the physical.
He was told to go home and sleep on it but today the deal fell through.
My biggest fear is that tomorrow the deals goes ahead.

Interesting.

Why "fear" ... because you value Leigh Fisher? Fair enough.

Any comment on the chances of the deal happening tomorrow, or what caused it to fall through?

saintdooley · Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:38pm

we bought a clash jumper at the sale on tuesday night, and leigh's number is on the back!

enough respect?

CeilidhSaint · Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:39pm

He didn't tell me why.

maverick · Post: # 473509Post **maverick** » Thu 11 Oct 2007 9:54pm

Nothing aginst the OP but how many players on here have been in the top 5 this year?

Fisher is a solid squad player who I am happy to keep at the club if nothing happens trade wise.

He is on the fringe of the starting 18, nothing more.

We are desperate for a half forward we have no goalkickers outside Milne and Riewoldt now. Someone like Schneider is ideal.

Why the lack of respect for Leigh Fisher?

Why the lack of respect for Leigh Fisher?

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