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GT took over a team which had only won 6 games in the previous 2 years. Within 3 years he had us in the finals. Within 4 years IMO he probably would have had a premiership if not for losing 3 players in each of the Fremantle and Adelaide games. In his final year we won 8 of our last 10 home and away games.
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yes amazing what you can do when BlightLotto, TimLotto and BluescheatingLotto DELIVERS to you the greatest list of saints players since the 60s/70s...
When the drafting GITFTS stopped......so did the improvement of our list.
Gtrain , Hamill etc all were attracted by Blight coaching the saints...
Whereas GT as senior coach could only attract senior players like Knoble, Ackland, Guerra etc....
Also how many AFL coaches have had players of the ability of Everitt and Hall walk out on them????
Some coaches have had one???
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saintsRrising wrote:
Gtrain , Hamill etc all were attracted by Blight coaching the saints...
Whereas GT as senior coach could only attract senior players like Knoble, Ackland, Guerra etc....
Only 1 player joined us during Blight's coaching reign and that was V2. Gtrain , Hamill and Lawrence signed with the Saints before Blight did ... and guess who signed them up ... GT.
They were Saints players with or without Blight.
And Powell and Black were handy additions afterwards even if you don't think so.
saintsRrising wrote:
Gtrain , Hamill etc all were attracted by Blight coaching the saints...
Whereas GT as senior coach could only attract senior players like Knoble, Ackland, Guerra etc....
Only 1 player joined us during Blight's coaching reign and that was V2. Gtrain , Hamill and Lawrence signed with the Saints before Blight did ... and guess who signed them up ... GT.
They were Saints players with or without Blight.
I believe you are correct on this Shaggy We had no coach and GT in his role of Football Director was most likely responsible for geting them?.
saintsRrising wrote:
Gtrain , Hamill etc all were attracted by Blight coaching the saints...
Whereas GT as senior coach could only attract senior players like Knoble, Ackland, Guerra etc....
Only 1 player joined us during Blight's coaching reign and that was V2. Gtrain , Hamill and Lawrence signed with the Saints before Blight did ... and guess who signed them up ... GT.
They were Saints players with or without Blight.
I believe you are correct on this Shaggy We had no coach and GT in his role of Football Director was most likely responsible for geting them?.
I don't recall who signed these couple though:-
Capuano
Callaghan
Where they the same time as G=Train etc?
Testing the memory but you are correct according to the wikipedia. Blight only joined after trading period.
Only 1 player joined us during Blight's coaching reign and that was V2. Gtrain , Hamill and Lawrence signed with the Saints before Blight did ... and guess who signed them up ... GT.
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Shaggy what I wrote is CORRECT....UNLESS Waldron is a Liar
"Gtrain , Hamill etc all were attracted by Blight coaching the saints"
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This is correct as what Waldron has stated that he told the players concerned that Blight would be coaching the Saints.when in fact Blight had not been landed... he boasted about how clever he was doing this.
In turn he told Blight that these players were coming to the saints.
The players were the bait along with the $million coaching salary used to land the Blight Whale.
Shaggy wrote:
They were Saints players with or without Blight..
Utter rubbish I am afraid...see above.
RB, GT and RB.....were all part of the wheeling and dealing.
PS.... I don't know why people keep forgetting what a great CEO Waldron was. Anyone noticed how Waldron has gone with that lowly Rugby team he took over....have they improved????
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Shaggy wrote:
They were Saints players with or without Blight..
Utter rubbish I am afraid...see above.
No it is not utter rubbish. The players were signed sealed and delivered before Blight was. Even if Blight did not join us the players were still Saints.
IIRC, the coaching sub-committee at the time identified Blight as the guy they wanted as Caoch and he didn't want to do it.
They then got him on their advisory sub-committee to interview all other applicants, knowing that thye really wanted him. As the 'process' continued they convinced him that he was superior to any of teh candidates and then they answered all the obstacles he threw in front of them.
Eventually he relented and agreed to becoming the Coach.
It may well be that the players who came to the CLub at that point in time (or some of them) may have had an 'out' clause on who was coaching the Club.
Remember that Timmy announced early on that he was going to step down so the sub-committee to find his replacement was formed well behind the end of the season.
In all likeliehood both sRr and Shaggy are correct on this.
Shaggy wrote:
They were Saints players with or without Blight..
Utter rubbish I am afraid...see above.
No it is not utter rubbish. The players were signed sealed and delivered before Blight was. Even if Blight did not join us the players were still Saints.
So Waldon is an out and out Liar then?????
I repeat..Waldron has said that he told the players that Blight would be coaching the Saints ...when he had in fact not yet signed.
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It was public knowledge we were trying to get Blight. But it was also public knowledge that Blight was not certain even with Saints desperately chasing him.
At the end of the day the players signed on first and whether Blight coached or not they were Saints players.
Most players like to know who their coach is but they took the risk anyway.
Shaggy wrote:It was public knowledge we were trying to get Blight. But it was also public knowledge that Blight was not certain even with Saints desperately chasing him.
At the end of the day the players signed on first and whether Blight coached or not they were Saints players.
Most players like to know who their coach is but they took the risk anyway.
I'm pretty sure that Hammil at least, had an 'out clause' based on the Coach.
I seem to recall taht when Blight was sacked his manager David Allison, was making public noisees about it?
Shaggy wrote:It was public knowledge we were trying to get Blight. But it was also public knowledge that Blight was not certain even with Saints desperately chasing him.
At the end of the day the players signed on first and whether Blight coached or not they were Saints players.
Most players like to know who their coach is but they took the risk anyway.
Again...that is not what Waldron has said.
Waldron has said that they agreed to come to us because he told them that Blight WOULD be coaching the Saints.
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Look...GT to me did an excellent job pre-coaching.
Match day Coaching wise he struggled early....mimicked the Lions with Rendell to have the streak...struggled again when opposition coaches started to play differently against including the use of flooding techniques.
His last season post bonnie Doon,,,,match day coaching wise I thought he was excellent.
However oveall his last mangement was woeful, and post Waldon he was no BUILDING a team...and indeed with poor trades and drafts was decreasing the quality of the list.
He also failed to realise that the TYPE of players required for AFL was changing.......both in who was recruited...as well as how they were trained. As St Mart observed players like BJ and Ball were pumped up too much rather than be trained to maximise their endurance.
Then their is the fitness mangements issue...an area which GT demanded from the Board full responsibility and accountability....
On top of this there are the interpersonal issues where Gt basically became a meglomaniac....demading everthing his way...and unable to work with all at the club including the Board who wanted to deploy more resources and more modern football depatment structures which Gt would have none of.
GT was very good for a time......but it would have been better for the saints if he had reamaineda Football Director rather than having become Head Coach.
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