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Oh please.Mr Magic wrote:BTW, I will ignore your insults in the hope I can actually get you to debate the issues.
So debate the issue and answer the question.JeffDunne wrote:Oh please.Mr Magic wrote:BTW, I will ignore your insults in the hope I can actually get you to debate the issues.
I am more than happy to debate the issues. I've been trying to do that for months only to have every thread on the issue de-railed because of people more intent on personal slanging matches than those issues (the other thread & your input a classic example).
That's a bit much. Caro hardly reported that Bedwell was part of the challenge. Hutchy sprung it on her, and she appeared to be as surprised as anybody. Hutchy appeared to be attacking Caro for saying Butterss should go. He pointed to the $1M profits and said that RB had a clear plan forward for the St. Kilda football club. He stated that he thought Butterss should stay. He wasn't just reporting, he was editorialising, and he was coming down on the pro-Butterss side. It's no surprise that within minutes the pro-Butterss lemmings were straight on here claiming a dubious victory.Mr Magic wrote:I'm pretty sure (my opinion only) that Teflon is responding to that thread with the news, also delivered by Caro and Hutchy that Bedwell is part of that challenge.
vacuous space wrote:That's a bit much. Caro hardly reported that Bedwell was part of the challenge. Hutchy sprung it on her, and she appeared to be as surprised as anybody. Hutchy appeared to be attacking Caro for saying Butterss should go. He pointed to the $1M profits and said that RB had a clear plan forward for the St. Kilda football club. He stated that he thought Butterss should stay. He wasn't just reporting, he was editorialising, and he was coming down on the pro-Butterss side. It's no surprise that within minutes the pro-Butterss lemmings were straight on here claiming a dubious victory.Mr Magic wrote:I'm pretty sure (my opinion only) that Teflon is responding to that thread with the news, also delivered by Caro and Hutchy that Bedwell is part of that challenge.
Who was Hutchy's source on this one?
Not sure from your post what lemming group your on.....Im tipping your not sure also but at least get your facts right - Caro also acknowledged that Steve Bedbreath was part of the "super challenge" that JD would have us all support.......but lets not get the truth out now will we...vacuous space wrote:That's a bit much. Caro hardly reported that Bedwell was part of the challenge. Hutchy sprung it on her, and she appeared to be as surprised as anybody. Hutchy appeared to be attacking Caro for saying Butterss should go. He pointed to the $1M profits and said that RB had a clear plan forward for the St. Kilda football club. He stated that he thought Butterss should stay. He wasn't just reporting, he was editorialising, and he was coming down on the pro-Butterss side. It's no surprise that within minutes the pro-Butterss lemmings were straight on here claiming a dubious victory.Mr Magic wrote:I'm pretty sure (my opinion only) that Teflon is responding to that thread with the news, also delivered by Caro and Hutchy that Bedwell is part of that challenge.
Who was Hutchy's source on this one?
Steve Bedwell gets anywhere near our Board and we are a laughing stock - NO Board member should or can be carried with such an obvious lack of genuine business nous.Oh When the Saints wrote:If someone highly credible such as Greg Westaway was involved as leading the alternative, along with Nathan Burke, another successful businessman, and another credible former player, would Bedwell's presence be such an issue?
The alternative ticket has nothing to do with Grant Thomas .... it is not part of such retrograde ploy to seek revenge for his sacking or have him reinstated around the club.
The alternative ticket is primarily concerned with a significant number of important issues which I have outlined before.
They have to do with our under-resourced football department, our declining
membership, our yet to be delivered elite training facility, our publicly embarrassing President and his activities, the club's mishandling of the Baker issue, the withdrawal of key sponsorship, and the confused and mixed messages that come from the board.
If Butterss addresses these concerns ^^ then he will have my support, but at this stage I can't see that happening.
yes and they were all running for the Board....I recall?Dan Warna wrote:mmm a fair few on this forum were calling for us to tank as well as i recall...
many were writing the season off early too as I recall...
Two years as a media and corporate leadership consultant. Plus involvement in property development too.Teflon wrote:Nathan Burke (great player...but as a buisness man what exactly is he bringing btw?)
no I am just pointing to the fact you are denigrating Bedwell for an issue taht SOME poster of whom I AM SURE YOU REMEMBER echoed the sentiments of tanking.Teflon wrote:yes and they were all running for the Board....I recall?Dan Warna wrote:mmm a fair few on this forum were calling for us to tank as well as i recall...
many were writing the season off early too as I recall...
You ever post anything moderately relevant to topic???
or do you just not understand the topic??
If you cant understand the difference between all us "experts" on an internet forum calling for tanking Vs a twit who puts his hand up to be on our Board publicly calling for it your a bigger knob than I had you down for.....thats a big knob already btw...Dan Warna wrote:no I am just pointing to the fact you are denigrating Bedwell for an issue taht SOME poster of whom I AM SURE YOU REMEMBER echoed the sentiments of tanking.Teflon wrote:yes and they were all running for the Board....I recall?Dan Warna wrote:mmm a fair few on this forum were calling for us to tank as well as i recall...
many were writing the season off early too as I recall...
You ever post anything moderately relevant to topic???
or do you just not understand the topic??
Or do you not understand my post?
2 property consultant? (thats everyones second occupation these days...) and worked in the media?Oh When the Saints wrote:Two years as a media and corporate leadership consultant. Plus involvement in property development too.Teflon wrote:Nathan Burke (great player...but as a buisness man what exactly is he bringing btw?)
You need more than businessmen on your board ... you need football intelligence and experience too ...
What football experience does the current St Kilda board have on it?
Yes it would be...a Board is too small a team to have a weak link...particularly one that weak...and more so one hell bent on BUILDING his own profile.Oh When the Saints wrote:
If someone highly credible such as Greg Westaway was involved as leading the alternative, along with Nathan Burke, another successful businessman, and another credible former player, would Bedwell's presence be such an issue?
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Be one hell of a lot worse if Bedwell gets involved.n1ck wrote:Our club is already a joke.
The current board made sure of that.
Please don't write stuff like this: I have a very strong visual imagination.vacuous space wrote:Hutchy sprung it on her, and she appeared to be as surprised as anybody.
Out of interest OWTS why do you give such credibility to Greg?Oh When the Saints wrote:If someone highly credible such as Greg Westaway was involved as leading the alternative, along with Nathan Burke, another successful businessman, and another credible former player, would Bedwell's presence be such an issue?
Yeah, I agree with what you're saying. I certainly don't want Bedwell to be any part of this ticket either. I don't have a problem with Butterss as a whole, but he needs to clean up his act IMO, particularly in his handling of some recent issues.Teflon wrote:you dont change just so you can say "we made change".St. Luke wrote:I highly doubt Thomas would have much to do with any of this. Personally, for all Butterss has done for the club, I think something needs to change...or at least be given a good scare!
ps: Bedwell on the other hand...uuurgh
We have a string Board - Butters HAS done a lot of good thinbgs for this club with a lot of sniping behind the scenes at him and the Board along the way.
IF a challenge is to be made to the Board then fair enough - but do it on the back of some GENUINE business acumen and a plan to address the so-called failures of the current Board NOT on the back of a retired club great and a half @ssed comedian who was off his tits at a club function in recent years dribbling words and who couldnt hold a gig down on breakfast radio FFS!
IF no serious alternative can be put up - then turkeys like Bedlam should disappear for the betterment of our club.
An uncle of mine had dealings in a business capacity with Westaway ... he was very impressed with him and reckons he is pretty switched on.Joffa Burns wrote:
Out of interest OWTS why do you give such credibility to Greg?
What impresses you?
His dealings with his sub-contracted drivers for example?
On Burkey, has Nathan Burke actually stated he will be part of any ticket?
One would think he'd be thrown in for the credibility factor to lure saints members, what else does he offer?
Bedwell, well he is a real saints fan and a nice sort of a bloke, but I don't want him on the Board of the StKFC.
I really look forward to seeing the alternative ticket(s) as I think we need aviable alternative for the Butterss administration. To see the end of Butterss and casey will serve StKilda well IMO.
FWIW I'd be grabbing hold of Ross Levine if I were an alternative ticket as the PWC man is a great acquisition to the Board.
