What really stings

[skeptic]

It appeared that our core list peaked from about 2004-06
In those years Port, Bris, Adel, Wce and Syd to a lesser degree always looked a bit like the unstoppable jaggurnuat teams.
We all felt that once the finals started it would be extremely tough to beat any of these teams interstate...

This year, of the final 8 I only fear Port. We could mop the floor with any of the rest on our day... sure they might beat us to but we would have been dangerous. I guess IMO the standard of footy is a bit lower this year than it has been recently.

Our 2004 team would have won the premiership this year. No doubt about it. This is one year that really got away and I'm not blaming it on RL, but yeah that sucks

[Prodgers]

im still at the belief that we have the best list in the AFL, just the brand of footy they have played just hasnt got them to where they should...

I hear what your saying about the standard of this years comp, agree 100%

[SaintWodonga]

Who has really come on since 2004/05?

Gilbert yes. But in the same time our recruiting has been poor, too slow and not many new talents since that time frame. We don't need hacks from other clubs, rather we need to use the draft properly.

I can't believe that Howard was last year's 2nd pick for us. Couldn't beleive it when it happened. In hindsight even worse. Seems like JB wanted to pull smokies maybe for his ego.. Not sure. The recruiting hasn't been great for a while and must be addressed.

[evertonfc]

On paper, our list is easily top four.

But I fear that Aaron Hamill and Michael Gardiner will play only on Reflex A4, not Telstra Dome

[StSteven]

Let's face reality. Other teams eg Geelong have passed us in performance, recruiting and development.

Take a look at Selwood's perfformance tonight. A first year player who was BOG tonight in a team that is on fire. There is no way we are at their standard. To believe we are is delusional.

[mad saint guy]

Our core in 2008

Hudghton 30
Hayes 27
Baker 27
S.Fisher 25
Riewoldt 24
Koschitzke 24
Dal Santo 23
Gram 23
Ball 23
Maguire 23
Montagna 23
Goddard 22
Gilbert 21

2011
Hayes 30
S.Fisher 28
Riewoldt 27
Koschitzke 27
Dal Santo 26
Gram 26
Ball 26
Maguire 26
Montagna 26
X.Clarke 26
Goddard 25
Gilbert 24
R.Clarke 24
Watts 24
Armitage 22

We will be a much better side from 2010-2013 than we are now. With Roo, Kosi, Ball, Dal, Joey, Gram, Goose, X, BJ and Gilbo all in the prime of their career we should be a dominant team.

[linz]

Speed Speed Speed (without drugs). That's the answer.

[StSteven]

Nah....let's go for 2015. Gives me more time to be free of the burden of expectation!

[Carl Mynott]

im still at the belief that we have the best list in the AFL,

I hope for us life long supporters sake RL doesn't believe this shite...

The list is flawed,this alleged best list hasn't done much yet,it needs to be tweaked,that is a non arguable fact...unfortunately......

[St. Luke]

Our core in 2008

Hudghton 30
Hayes 27
Baker 27
S.Fisher 25
Riewoldt 24
Koschitzke 24
Dal Santo 23
Gram 23
Ball 23
Maguire 23
Montagna 23
Goddard 22
Gilbert 21

2011
Hayes 30
S.Fisher 28
Riewoldt 27
Koschitzke 27
Dal Santo 26
Gram 26
Ball 26
Maguire 26
Montagna 26
X.Clarke 26
Goddard 25
Gilbert 24
R.Clarke 24
Watts 24
Armitage 22

We will be a much better side from 2010-2013 than we are now. With Roo, Kosi, Ball, Dal, Joey, Gram, Goose, X, BJ and Gilbo all in the prime of their career we should be a dominant team.

We've still got a reasonably young list. Nice assessment MSG!

[Saints-06-Premiers]

Our core in 2008

Hudghton 30
Hayes 27
Baker 27
S.Fisher 25
Riewoldt 24
Koschitzke 24
Dal Santo 23
Gram 23
Ball 23
Maguire 23
Montagna 23
Goddard 22
Gilbert 21

2011
Hayes 30
S.Fisher 28
Riewoldt 27
Koschitzke 27
Dal Santo 26
Gram 26
Ball 26
Maguire 26
Montagna 26
X.Clarke 26
Goddard 25
Gilbert 24
R.Clarke 24
Watts 24
Armitage 22

We will be a much better side from 2010-2013 than we are now. With Roo, Kosi, Ball, Dal, Joey, Gram, Goose, X, BJ and Gilbo all in the prime of their career we should be a dominant team.

There is no way I'm waiting until 2010.
Maybe the players can feel what its like to miss finals and come back next season and give it a red hot crack.

[Iceman234]

Our core in 2008

Hudghton 30
Hayes 27
Baker 27
S.Fisher 25
Riewoldt 24
Koschitzke 24
Dal Santo 23
Gram 23
Ball 23
Maguire 23
Montagna 23
Goddard 22
Gilbert 21

2011
Hayes 30
S.Fisher 28
Riewoldt 27
Koschitzke 27
Dal Santo 26
Gram 26
Ball 26
Maguire 26
Montagna 26
X.Clarke 26
Goddard 25
Gilbert 24
R.Clarke 24
Watts 24
Armitage 22

We will be a much better side from 2010-2013 than we are now. With Roo, Kosi, Ball, Dal, Joey, Gram, Goose, X, BJ and Gilbo all in the prime of their career we should be a dominant team.

There is no way I'm waiting until 2010.
Maybe the players can feel what its like to miss finals and come back next season and give it a red hot crack.

And of course .....

Harvey 40

???

[Winmar]

The core of our list is still very good, but some of the fringe players really aren't good enough. Our players make horrendous errors all too often, and give away at least one goal a week through sheer stupidity.