Our very inexperienced team
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snoopygirl
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For the past few years & half of this season they've been able to play the "injury" card, now that they don't have that anymore, maybe they're being caught out. Best team on paper & we're not putting sides away. Too many top name players in the side now for it to be anything other than lack of effort. Seems to me that they all think it'll just fall into place for them & it has been the fringe players putting in the effort in the forlorn hope of getting a regular gig. I sort of hope we don't make the finals as it might make a few of them sit up & take notice. It aint just gonna happen.
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meher baba
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The 100 game benchmark is pretty arbitrary and distorts the true picture.
The bulk of our regular first-teamers all featured in the 2000-02 drafts for us or other clubs: Kosi, Riewoldt, X, Goose, Dal, Joey, Ball, BJ, Gram, Fiora and Fish. On top of these, we have Chips, who is actually older than all of these guys, but who was drafted in the 2003 draft, and Birss, who is a fringe first-teamer who is from the same era.
All 13 members of this "class of 2000-02" have been around the AFL scene for long enough to have played 100 games: a milestone now achieved by large numbers of their peers from other clubs. However, due to injury (Kosi, Goose, X, Gram, Fish and BJ), a late start to their AFL careers (Chips), or a prolonged struggle to reach AFL-level form (Joey and Birss), 9 of the 13 have played fewer than 100 AFL games (but four - BJ, X, Kosi and Goose - are in the 90s).
Most of the rest of our regular players (as well as the "virtual" member of our list, one MS Gardiner) are 100+ gamers a year or two older than this core group - Lenny, Milne, Blake and Bakes - or else veterans with over 150, and mainly over 200, games: Harves, Thommo, Voss, M Clarke, Max, Fraser and Hamill. You will note that, for various reasons, 4 of the seven veterans did not play on Saturday night.
The other players regularly playing AFL for the Saints are Rix (who has been around the AFL/VFL scene for longer than the 2000-02 group), Jones (who has played in the WAFL for several years and is actually older than Dal Santo, Gram, Ball and others) and Attard and Gilbert, who can genuinely be said to be young and inexperienced.
So, in conclusion, the AFL standard part of our list (the top 30 or so) can be described as both highly experienced - if not in the AFL, then in the WAFL, SANFL and VFL - and, more to the point, relatively old.
So, OWTS, I am afraid that the B4Es of this world who complain about our ageing list are closer to the mark than you are on this issue.
The bulk of our regular first-teamers all featured in the 2000-02 drafts for us or other clubs: Kosi, Riewoldt, X, Goose, Dal, Joey, Ball, BJ, Gram, Fiora and Fish. On top of these, we have Chips, who is actually older than all of these guys, but who was drafted in the 2003 draft, and Birss, who is a fringe first-teamer who is from the same era.
All 13 members of this "class of 2000-02" have been around the AFL scene for long enough to have played 100 games: a milestone now achieved by large numbers of their peers from other clubs. However, due to injury (Kosi, Goose, X, Gram, Fish and BJ), a late start to their AFL careers (Chips), or a prolonged struggle to reach AFL-level form (Joey and Birss), 9 of the 13 have played fewer than 100 AFL games (but four - BJ, X, Kosi and Goose - are in the 90s).
Most of the rest of our regular players (as well as the "virtual" member of our list, one MS Gardiner) are 100+ gamers a year or two older than this core group - Lenny, Milne, Blake and Bakes - or else veterans with over 150, and mainly over 200, games: Harves, Thommo, Voss, M Clarke, Max, Fraser and Hamill. You will note that, for various reasons, 4 of the seven veterans did not play on Saturday night.
The other players regularly playing AFL for the Saints are Rix (who has been around the AFL/VFL scene for longer than the 2000-02 group), Jones (who has played in the WAFL for several years and is actually older than Dal Santo, Gram, Ball and others) and Attard and Gilbert, who can genuinely be said to be young and inexperienced.
So, in conclusion, the AFL standard part of our list (the top 30 or so) can be described as both highly experienced - if not in the AFL, then in the WAFL, SANFL and VFL - and, more to the point, relatively old.
So, OWTS, I am afraid that the B4Es of this world who complain about our ageing list are closer to the mark than you are on this issue.
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The problem is that our core of "senior" players include Milne, Baker, Blake, Thommo, Voss and M. Clarke, non of whom is a "star" of AFL footy.
Our "stars" are basically those who commenced post 2000, and we need them all on the park, fit and playing well to build around them.
And build around them you can because they give the team its structure.
Those mentioned in the opening paragraph do not provide the team's structure and do not lead the team.
Our "stars" are basically those who commenced post 2000, and we need them all on the park, fit and playing well to build around them.
And build around them you can because they give the team its structure.
Those mentioned in the opening paragraph do not provide the team's structure and do not lead the team.