Zak Jones on the Outer

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Zak Jones on the Outer

Post: # 1973886Post cwrcyn »

Ratten has really lost his patience. Jones will seriously have rethink how he approaches his football now. If NWM, Windhager, and Owens consolidate their positions over summer, and if we snare a hard running midfield type through free agency, then Zak could find himself in football's nowhere land


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Post: # 1973888Post Wayne42 »

cwrcyn wrote: Thu 11 Aug 2022 7:34pm Ratten has really lost his patience. Jones will seriously have rethink how he approaches his football now. If NWM, Windhager, and Owens consolidate their positions over summer, and if we snare a hard running midfield type through free agency, then Zak could find himself in football's nowhere land
Maybe Zak hasn't recovered properly from whatever it was that made him take leave.
Maybe he has lost interest, whatever the reason, at the moment he is just not up to the level.


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Post: # 1973890Post bangaulegend »

Not sure what the story is on Jones. He can be explosive at times but poor disposal & trying to be too clever for his own good brings him undone IMO. Leave of absence for 4 or 5 weeks at the start of the year didn't help his cause but like many hasn't lived up to expectation . Players we needed to stand up to make us contenders like Jones, Billings ,Gresham ,Clark, Coffield ,Paton ,Butler ,Higgins ,Hill have either been injured , unavailable or just out of form . Too much left to too few & eventually the inevitable happens & we can't sustain a game plan that is competitive IMO anyway


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Re: Zak Jones on the Outer

Post: # 1973894Post The_Dud »

Really thought he’d be good for us this year, but has tumbled down the pecking order. Very uninspiring, wouldn’t be too fussed if we got rid of him.


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Jones is a dumb footballer..crazy eyes and rad doesn't drill a pass out of the centre down a forwards throat ever ...he can f*** off..you can't bring in guys like Jones Roughhead and Hanners and Hill who crap on how better their team environment was than ours ..too many people playing and working for pay cheques..


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Brings pace but nothing else, poor disposal and decision making that is unlikely to improve actually a poor man’s Gresham


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Post: # 1973928Post WellardSaint »

Rubyjo wrote: Thu 11 Aug 2022 11:07pm Jones is a dumb footballer..crazy eyes and rad doesn't drill a pass out of the centre down a forwards throat ever ...he can f*** off..you can't bring in guys like Jones Roughhead and Hanners and Hill who crap on how better their team environment was than ours ..too many people playing and working for pay cheques..
There seems to be an ongoing trend with imported players that come to our club.
Been happening for many years.
The thing is, they don't bring their previous standards with them.
No, they lower their standards to the cesspool level that surrounds them at Arsey-Park (Seaford before that, etc)


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Post: # 1973947Post B.M »

He’s a decent player - should be there n the seniors


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Post: # 1973975Post Banger9798 »

Looks a shadow of the player regularly gathering 30 + possessions last year.

Mental or physical?

Still in the right age bracket to be on the list, but has given us nothing this year.


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Banger9798 wrote: Fri 12 Aug 2022 8:54am Looks a shadow of the player regularly gathering 30 + possessions last year.

Mental or physical?

Still in the right age bracket to be on the list, but has given us nothing this year.
Not sure it is not recreational (maybe meaning that he takes the job on as a hobby .... maybe not)


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Post: # 1973981Post The Fireman »

we know how to turn them around


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Post: # 1973983Post CURLY »

This is what happens if you don't get a decent pre season and continuality on games.

From the Essendon pre seaon game when we lost Clark and Billings we've been chasing our arse.


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I wonder if he is a downhill skier. Looks good when winning but doesn't do the "hard stuff' when things go bad.

I am a bit of a fan of what he brings as it is something we don't have - explosive pace.
How much is off field we will never know, or has he just got comfortable and bad habits.

His brother changed his game at Melbourne in the last 5 years of his career so not necessarily done with, however if he doesn't want that then may need to move on


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Post: # 1973994Post skeptic »

IMO it’s just a fitness thing.
Yeah he had an interrupted preseason but it’s august now.

He shouldn’t have played if he was so far off the pace and instead done an extended run with Sandy + heavy fitness loading.

Playing people into fitness in the seniors simply doesn’t work. Not only to they struggle, they inevitably loses whatever confidence they had and their stocks drop markedly.

I feel like this is a mistake we just do over and over again. I swear this has been a bugbear of my since like 2006.


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Post: # 1973995Post spert »

I'm sure in his first season with us, he got outside and ran more, and disposed of the ball quicker, but in the last couple of seasons he seems to get the ball then run back inboard and try and take on the tackler and doesn't get the ball away. Maybe the coach has tried to change his style, but it has backfired?


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CURLY wrote: Fri 12 Aug 2022 9:24am This is what happens if you don't get a decent pre season and continuality on games.

From the Essendon pre seaon game when we lost Clark and Billings we've been chasing our arse.
Happens at all clubs. Ours is no different. Just another excuse


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Moods wrote: Fri 12 Aug 2022 11:11am
CURLY wrote: Fri 12 Aug 2022 9:24am This is what happens if you don't get a decent pre season and continuality on games.

From the Essendon pre seaon game when we lost Clark and Billings we've been chasing our arse.
Happens at all clubs. Ours is no different. Just another excuse
Yep and those guys are aslo chaing their arse.


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Re: Zak Jones on the Outer

Post: # 1974035Post shanegrambeau »

Listed as emergency

I smell a late inclusion

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Re: Zak Jones on the Outer

Post: # 1974559Post B.M »

As I said

Decent player - should be in the seniors… easily

Ratten had no problem naming him the other week - and we all have bad days

But has not named passengers since

Double standard


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Re: Zak Jones on the Outer

Post: # 1974569Post mad saint guy »

Was quite good against Brisbane. I still think he could be very handy at full fitness and in a good mental space.


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Re: Zak Jones on the Outer

Post: # 1974574Post Banger9798 »

Was good today, that aggression and pace and linking with Crouch, Hill and Sinclair has been greatly missed.


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