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Changes v Brisbane

Post: # 1973546Post older saint »

While we can mathematically still make the finals it must be all guns blazing:
Brisbane off a 5 day break also and a shocking last qtr .

Out: Hanners (inj), Sharman
In: NWM, Bytel

Or if going 2 rucks
On: Campbell, Bytel

Hanners obvious and while Sharman has been ok a couple things sit in mind from Saturday - one in the backline where he hand balled to Wesbter and didn't lay the sheppard, webster run down - goal Stengle in 2nd qtr when we had momentum. The other being a few kicks which were direct turnovers - not alone i realise. Has talent but IMO needs to realise there is more than going for mark of the year/spoil of the year when the ball hits the ground.

They may play Jones - cant judge him on 1 qtr and didn't play yesterday interestingly enough so may well be marked to play this week.

Having watched Brisbane now last 2 weeks absolute Jeckel and Hyde bets is awesome but have now played 3 qtrs which were sub standard and lost a game because if it and nearly blew it yesterday after being 50+ points up


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Re: Changes v Brisbane

Post: # 1973548Post Bowey Boy »

Is Max King still playing?


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Points taken older saint but Sharman's game show he is definitely a keeper. Was good to see someone taking contested marks around the ground. How many did he grab was it three or four? Could he be a potential matchup for Hipwood?


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Templar wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 11:33am Points taken older saint but Sharman's game show he is definitely a keeper. Was good to see someone taking contested marks around the ground. How many did he grab was it three or four? Could he be a potential matchup for Hipwood?
As has been the case for over a month now, what other options do the selectors have, it's not as though the selectors sit around the selection table each week feeling like they are blessed with options, especially for key positions.

The positive is Sharman is getting a game but otherwise wouldn't be if our list wasn't a rabble, the down side is he may lose confidence if he keeps getting slaughtered each week while playing with the big kids.


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Bowey Boy wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 11:12am Is Max King still playing?
He's out on the ground but i think he just runs around to keep warm, fitness guys have told him that might help him avoid getting a soft tissue injury.


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I can't see Sharman losing confidence from his game on Saturday. To me it was very encouraging.


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Templar wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 11:33am Points taken older saint but Sharman's game show he is definitely a keeper. Was good to see someone taking contested marks around the ground. How many did he grab was it three or four? Could he be a potential matchup for Hipwood?
Battle - Daniher
Wilkie - Hipwood
Howard - McStay

No match up there for him.
Cameron - Paton
Webster - McCarthy
Sinclair - 6th forward ( probably tagged by Robinson)


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Hanners out.. Bytel in.


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Templar wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 11:45am I can't see Sharman losing confidence from his game on Saturday. To me it was very encouraging.
In terms of us fielding a team this year that is capable of winning the next 2 games and reaching finals and possibly winning a game or 2?

Or encouraging in terms of he's shown enough to invest 2 more years of development and hope he can become finals standard in the next 2 or 3 years after developing at Sandy?

Personally I think the latter because can anyone really see him playing in a finals team (other than us) in 3 weeks time. Is he ready for that?


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Encouraging potential long term player (preferably fwd). Saturday proves he can take big grabs and he gave us glimpses earlier of dead eye dick goal kicking capacity.

Regarding next two games - I will leave that to those who know better than I do. Player availability, fitness, matchups etc.


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

Post: # 1973574Post Beno88 »

It's St Kilda. The bastards will win and string us along for another week.


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Really hard to assess Bytel's form. To me, he plays like Crouch. Do we need two Brad Crouch types playing in the one midfield? Bytel is slow. I'd be more inclined to give Owens more midfield time and bring Connolly in to give us some desperately needed speed and kicking skills.

Of course there's the option to bring Jones off the sub bench to replace Hannebery. That seems to be the most obvious. Can't see why Sharman would be dumped.

Out: Hannebery

In: Jones

Sub: Connolly


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Templar wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 1:19pm Encouraging potential long term player (preferably fwd). Saturday proves he can take big grabs and he gave us glimpses earlier of dead eye dick goal kicking capacity.

Regarding next two games - I will leave that to those who know better than I do. Player availability, fitness, matchups etc.
Who do they chose if they think they are leaving Sharman out?


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cwrcyn wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 1:25pm Really hard to assess Bytel's form. To me, he plays like Crouch. Do we need two Brad Crouch types playing in the one midfield? Bytel is slow. I'd be more inclined to give Owens more midfield time and bring Connolly in to give us some desperately needed speed and kicking skills.

Of course there's the option to bring Jones off the sub bench to replace Hannebery. That seems to be the most obvious. Can't see why Sharman would be dumped.

Out: Hannebery

In: Jones

Sub: Connolly
In anyone who can hit a target
Run both ways
Make smart decsions
Can stick a takle
And last but not least has the desire to win a game of footy


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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cwrcyn wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 1:25pm Really hard to assess Bytel's form. To me, he plays like Crouch. Do we need two Brad Crouch types playing in the one midfield? Bytel is slow. I'd be more inclined to give Owens more midfield time and bring Connolly in to give us some desperately needed speed and kicking skills.

Of course there's the option to bring Jones off the sub bench to replace Hannebery. That seems to be the most obvious. Can't see why Sharman would be dumped.

Out: Hannebery

In: Jones

Sub: Connolly
Well we can certainly assess Jones' form from his body of work and how he will play whenever he is picked.
With Bytel there is hope in untapped potential and he seems calm under pressure. Unlike Jones.
Bytel, NWM and Connolly in
Hannebery, Webster, Jones out, and hard to see any loss in team capability with that. Dan can always shout from sidelines. Jones can watch Neale and Webster Starcevich. The suggested ins will get good experience and have a chance to show off what they have.
As for winning, shouldn't think so unless Max realises Andrews is slow, Gardener can't really play and their other defenders are shortish. Forwards coaches might mention it to him, if they have noticed.


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older saint wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 11:45am
Templar wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 11:33am Points taken older saint but Sharman's game show he is definitely a keeper. Was good to see someone taking contested marks around the ground. How many did he grab was it three or four? Could he be a potential matchup for Hipwood?
Battle - Daniher
Wilkie - Hipwood
Howard - McStay

No match up there for him.
Cameron - Paton
Webster - McCarthy
Sinclair - 6th forward ( probably tagged by Robinson)
Daniher too tall for Battle.
A few weeks ago, Battle went to a tall Fwd (which match? Can't recall) but the difference in height was quite obvious.
Battle couldn't spoil at all.
Tried but didn't get near it when his oppo was marking it


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Can we start Max in the Backline to teach him what the term "work ethic means"


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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As a guest of Geelong last Saturday night, so with the best seat in the house, the sub par player for St Kilda was Ross

A lack of accountability, a lack of presence and abysmal with the ball in hand

The Geelong comment on Hannebery at half time was how valuable he was to St Kilda - the opposite to Ross

Sharman shows promise His leaping ability in a side which lacks height is valuable as well

Bytel for Ross for mine - Bytel could not be any worse

Webster also was very ordinary

Both Ross and Webster are approaching 30 years of age with no stand out features so of the past

Neither can influence results


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Killa wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 4:12pm As a guest of Geelong last Saturday night, so with the best seat in the house, the sub par player for St Kilda was Ross

A lack of accountability, a lack of presence and abysmal with the ball in hand

The Geelong comment on Hannebery at half time was how valuable he was to St Kilda - the opposite to Ross

Sharman shows promise His leaping ability in a side which lacks height is valuable as well

Bytel for Ross for mine - Bytel could not be any worse

Webster also was very ordinary

Both Ross and Webster are approaching 30 years of age with no stand out features so of the past

Neither can influence results
Gee as usual it sounds like you were very high up, I almost feel like your views are beyond reproach.


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Vortex wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 6:35pm
Killa wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 4:12pm As a guest of Geelong last Saturday night, so with the best seat in the house, the sub par player for St Kilda was Ross

A lack of accountability, a lack of presence and abysmal with the ball in hand

The Geelong comment on Hannebery at half time was how valuable he was to St Kilda - the opposite to Ross

Sharman shows promise His leaping ability in a side which lacks height is valuable as well

Bytel for Ross for mine - Bytel could not be any worse

Webster also was very ordinary

Both Ross and Webster are approaching 30 years of age with no stand out features so of the past

Neither can influence results
Gee as usual it sounds like you were very high up, I almost feel like your views are beyond reproach.
It’s difficult to argue with someone when they have such strong opinions. I’d love to see some facts and some statistics to back up his views…

Hey Vortex….I have an idea…Why don’t you start a poll! Should posters have at least something numerical and factual when slagging off on a player?
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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Killa wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 4:12pm As a guest of Geelong last Saturday night, so with the best seat in the house, the sub par player for St Kilda was Ross

A lack of accountability, a lack of presence and abysmal with the ball in hand

The Geelong comment on Hannebery at half time was how valuable he was to St Kilda - the opposite to Ross

Sharman shows promise His leaping ability in a side which lacks height is valuable as well

Bytel for Ross for mine - Bytel could not be any worse

Webster also was very ordinary

Both Ross and Webster are approaching 30 years of age with no stand out features so of the past

Neither can influence results
I don’t agree at all with your assessment of both Seb or Jimmy. Webster was one of the strongest players for us on the night and I’d be willing to bet that Jimmy will poll some good votes in the Trevor Barker Medal for this particular match


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Re: Changes v Brisbane

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Scollop wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 8:22pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 6:35pm
Killa wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 4:12pm As a guest of Geelong last Saturday night, so with the best seat in the house, the sub par player for St Kilda was Ross

A lack of accountability, a lack of presence and abysmal with the ball in hand

The Geelong comment on Hannebery at half time was how valuable he was to St Kilda - the opposite to Ross

Sharman shows promise His leaping ability in a side which lacks height is valuable as well

Bytel for Ross for mine - Bytel could not be any worse

Webster also was very ordinary

Both Ross and Webster are approaching 30 years of age with no stand out features so of the past

Neither can influence results
Gee as usual it sounds like you were very high up, I almost feel like your views are beyond reproach.
It’s difficult to argue with someone when they have such strong opinions. I’d love to see some facts and some statistics to back up his views…

Hey Vortex….I have an idea…Why don’t you start a poll
I love polls. My poll would be how many more tall players did Geelong have than us?

Was it more than 1
Was it more than 2
Was it more than 4
Do our players look like midgets when you are very high up.
Can leaping ability make taller players shorter


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Vortex wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 6:35pm
Killa wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 4:12pm As a guest of Geelong last Saturday night, so with the best seat in the house, the sub par player for St Kilda was Ross

A lack of accountability, a lack of presence and abysmal with the ball in hand

The Geelong comment on Hannebery at half time was how valuable he was to St Kilda - the opposite to Ross

Sharman shows promise His leaping ability in a side which lacks height is valuable as well

Bytel for Ross for mine - Bytel could not be any worse

Webster also was very ordinary

Both Ross and Webster are approaching 30 years of age with no stand out features so of the past

Neither can influence results
Gee as usual it sounds like you were very high up, I almost feel like your views are beyond reproach.
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Scollop wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 8:22pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 6:35pm
Killa wrote: Mon 08 Aug 2022 4:12pm As a guest of Geelong last Saturday night, so with the best seat in the house, the sub par player for St Kilda was Ross

A lack of accountability, a lack of presence and abysmal with the ball in hand

The Geelong comment on Hannebery at half time was how valuable he was to St Kilda - the opposite to Ross

Sharman shows promise His leaping ability in a side which lacks height is valuable as well

Bytel for Ross for mine - Bytel could not be any worse

Webster also was very ordinary

Both Ross and Webster are approaching 30 years of age with no stand out features so of the past

Neither can influence results
Gee as usual it sounds like you were very high up, I almost feel like your views are beyond reproach.
It’s difficult to argue with someone when they have such strong opinions. I’d love to see some facts and some statistics to back up his views…

Hey Vortex….I have an idea…Why don’t you start a poll! Should posters have at least something numerical and factual when slagging off on a player?
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