Best value recruits

[D.B.Cooper]

Vic Cumberland- wasn’t in our zone and we did a shifty in the late 1890’s to secure him.

saynta is the only one on here who saw him play so perhaps could elaborate?

[D.B.Cooper]

Luke Parker

Not sure WTF happened there

He was one of the most dominant juniors ever seen in the MPNFL

Perception was he had little scope for improvement as he was already developed

Rubbish

Yep, I didn’t see him personally but was told he was one of the most dominant juniors ever seen at Langy.

Elite AFL star and tough as f#ck.

[Scollop]

Oh well, thank fk we didn't miss out on the kid from Seaford who went on to play 380 odd in Red white and black

Also found this on the iterweb

https://www.saints.com.au/news/91448/ba ... aft-steals

[Vortex]

Jason Heatley

1996 pick 49

73 goals in 97

[skeptic]

Pick 1 - Nick Riewoldt

Even first, Riewoldt delivered far beyond what anyone could have reasonably expected

[B.M]

With someone like Parker - and Jack Riewoldt

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then most probably it’s a duck!

In other words

If a kid can seriously play as a junior often he can play as a senior!

[B.M]

Agree with Nick

Best ever No1 pick IMO

[Killa]

IMO Luke Penny would have seen us win premierships (plural)

[B.M]

Team so far

B:Wilkie - xxxxx - Geary
HB: Dempster - Fisher - Baker
C: A.Jones - A.Thompson - J.Peckett
HF: A.Schneider - xxxxxx - Membrey
F: Milne (c) - Heatley- xxxxxx
Foll: Marshall - xxxxxx - J.Steven
Int: Gwilt - C.Jones - xxxxx - xxxxxx
Emerg: xxxxx - xxxxx - xxxxx


What was the value on the following …

M.Gardiner?
B.Voss?
D.Butler?

[Banger9798]

Goose McGuire was a very astute selection, the leg fracture and compartment syndrome cruelled him unfortunately, but can't fault his selection in the 20's somewhere from memory

[B.M]

Goose was pick 21

Unfortunately injury means with about 100 games he wasn’t much value.

[B.M]

We actually interviewed Stevie J just before the draft at his house and we’re very keen but opted for the key defender instead.

Stevie J was still there at our pick but went 3 picks later to Geelong

[mad saint guy]

Jack Sinclair - Pick 1 in rookie draft. If we had have taken him at Pick 3 in the National Draft and Billings at Pick 1 in the Rookie Draft we'd all be stoked that we got an absolute gun with pick 3 and then a handy flanker with a rookie pick.

Joey Montagna - Pick 37


Also great value

Josh Battle - Pick 39
Ben Paton - Pick 46

[B.M]

Agree with all of those

Sinclair would be good value as a first round pick, the fact he was a rookie - good call

Joey - absolutely 2* All Australian and 3 time RU B&F 280 games he was a star

Battle - yep should never have slid that far in the draft - ridiculous- he’s a good player - was always going to be

Paton - at 46 probably better than a third round pick… pity about the bad break.

Webster was also a pick of n the 40s
Fine player who got better with age and body continuity

[cwrcyn]

Sam Gilbert pick 33

[desertsaint]

has to be milney, best player in this thread bar perhaps roo, and better yet - essendon reject.

[Scollop]

Jack Sinclair - Pick 1 in rookie draft. If we had have taken him at Pick 3 in the National Draft and Billings at Pick 1 in the Rookie Draft we'd all be stoked that we got an absolute gun with pick 3 and then a handy flanker with a rookie pick.

Joey Montagna - Pick 37


Also great value

Josh Battle - Pick 39
Ben Paton - Pick 46

I think we got more consistency from Billings rather than from Sinclair in their early years.

I wouldn’t be stoked taking a player at pick 3 and waiting 4-5 years for them just to secure a spot or find a position to play in the seniors. It took Sincs 6 years at the club to become an elite footballer.

We were expecting a lot more from our number 3 pick and a natural progression and incremental improvement. We sort of got that and JB had his best year in 2019. He is yet to re-produce that level again

[D.B.Cooper]

Jack Sinclair - Pick 1 in rookie draft. If we had have taken him at Pick 3 in the National Draft and Billings at Pick 1 in the Rookie Draft we'd all be stoked that we got an absolute gun with pick 3 and then a handy flanker with a rookie pick.

Joey Montagna - Pick 37


Also great value

Josh Battle - Pick 39
Ben Paton - Pick 46

I think we got more consistency from Billings rather than from Sinclair in their early years.

I wouldn’t be stoked taking a player at pick 3 and waiting 4-5 years for them just to secure a spot or find a position to play in the seniors. It took Sincs 6 years at the club to become an elite footballer.

We were expecting a lot more from our number 3 pick and a natural progression and incremental improvement. We sort of got that and JB had his best year in 2019. He is yet to re-produce that level again

Sinclair as a rookie is definitely a high value pick.
Joey at #37 as a dual AA, number of games etc also a tick.

Paton & Battle whilst reasonable picks do not fit the criteria IMO when compared with Wilkie, Marshall, Sinclair, Membrey etc.

[D.B.Cooper]

Sam Gilbert pick 33

Good player and good pick.

But best value?

We are not talking Chris Grant #105 or James Turd #79(?) with Gilbo at #33 or a full gun like Milne off the rookie list.

[older saint]

Team so far

B:Wilkie - xxxxx - Geary
HB: Dempster - Fisher - Baker
C: A.Jones - A.Thompson - J.Peckett
HF: A.Schneider - xxxxxx - Membrey
F: Milne (c) - Heatley- xxxxxx
Foll: Marshall - xxxxxx - J.Steven
Int: Gwilt - C.Jones - xxxxx - xxxxxx
Emerg: xxxxx - xxxxx - xxxxx


What was the value on the following …

M.Gardiner?
B.Voss?
D.Butler?

I would think anything beyond pick 50 who played more than 4 seasons of AFL would be a win. Number of games would decide value of 3rd round picks. I expect 1 and 2 round picks to play at least 4-5 season.
Add in Sinclair ( Rookie Draft), Voss ( pre season draft), Tim Pekin ( pre season draft)
Don't think Milne would ever be captain of anything

[Beno88]

Jack Steven.

Pick 42.

Four-time Best & Fairest.

That's value.

[CURLY]

Steven King from Geelong has to up there we went from the worst ruck division to one of the best.

[saynta]

Vic Cumberland- wasn’t in our zone and we did a shifty in the late 1890’s to secure him.

saynta is the only one on here who saw him play so perhaps could elaborate?

My paternal grandfather was born in the 1890's, Me ? Half a century latter and very luck to be here I might add, as he was wounded on the beaches of Gallipoli and again in France before catching the Spanish flu.

So I don't think any of my immediate family can help you out with Harry Vivian Cumberland, the oldest player to play at VFL level..

[Devilhead]

Vic used to kick sausage rolls on his wrong foot from the wrong boundary from 50 out with his eyes shut

He was so good they named a sausage after him

[B.M]

There is NO set criteria

Just good value for where they were selected

The later the selection and better the player - the more value!

Stephen Mile Capt - because imo he is the best value recruit ever - not because he was a captain!

He is the captain of best value recruiting