Best value recruits

[Freebird]

BM, interesting thread you have going but as I remember you were not a fan of battle - turning circle of queen mary etc.
This recruiting caper not that easy. Be interesting to do a thread on the bad selections - Brad Howard taken pick 26? when not expected to be drafted and Frost who was dropped off Bulldogs list of 65? taken by our first pick.
These are two of the less obvious ones never the less it cost us a first and second pick

[saynta]

BM, interesting thread you have going but as I remember you were not a fan of battle - turning circle of queen mary etc.
This recruiting caper not that easy. Be interesting to do a thread on the bad selections - Brad Howard taken pick 26? when not expected to be drafted and Frost who was dropped off Bulldogs list of 65? taken by our first pick.
These are two of the less obvious ones never the less it cost us a first and second pick

Too f****** many actually , But I will start with Chris Hemley , one of the dud players in the plugger shemozzle.

Played 1 game for zero possessions.

Cayd Beetham who was pick 9 in 1999 after we recruited Tony Francis from the filth with pick 7.

Beetham who only played 30 odd games for the saints always thought he was too good for the wooden spooners.

Francis faired worse only playing a handful of games in Saints colours.

[skeptic]

BM, interesting thread you have going but as I remember you were not a fan of battle - turning circle of queen mary etc.
This recruiting caper not that easy. Be interesting to do a thread on the bad selections - Brad Howard taken pick 26? when not expected to be drafted and Frost who was dropped off Bulldogs list of 65? taken by our first pick.
These are two of the less obvious ones never the less it cost us a first and second pick

Ben Walton at #16 in 1997...
#20 Dean Soloman
#25 Nick Stevens
#31 Simon Black
#43 Adam Goodes

Our best pick - Matty Carr at #7 in the rookie draft... hung around just long enough to be traded when starting to look good and went on to have a good career at Freo.

The worst of it, first 2 players of the PSD...
Jamie Shannon to Melbourne
Joel Smith to Hawthorn

Ouch

[B.M]

Very happy when we snared Battle with pick 39 at the time

Bargain

Every players has weaknesses - but their strengths are what counts

Battle
Brave, good hands, elite endurance, good kick

Weakness
Agility, below knees

Overall
Very good player

[happy feet]

Steven Baker

Pick 28 1998

Small, not quick, not skilled

But probably pound for pound the toughest player ever to pull on the jumper

Best and Fairest
200 games

I wasn’t around to see Eric Guy, but my Dad thought he was the toughest ever. A few other old timers agreed.

[saynta]

Steven Baker

Pick 28 1998

Small, not quick, not skilled

But probably pound for pound the toughest player ever to pull on the jumper

Best and Fairest
200 games

I wasn’t around to see Eric Guy, but my Dad thought he was the toughest ever. A few other old timers agreed.

I was in the Saints rooms at half at Glenferrie oval with my old man in the early 60 against those hawk pricks and that absolute filthy mongrel Brendon Edwards.

Saints were just starting to come good with a young coach named Allan Jeans.

The hawks had monstered the saints and half the players were getting pain killing injections. The docs approached Guy with their needles. I remember clearly he waving them away and telling them to f*** off.

I was also at the JO the day he shirtfronted Bobby Skilton. I thought he had killed him.

There is no doubt in my mind that Guy was by far the toughest Saint and one of the toughest men to play the game.

Baker was not in the same league and was more of a sniper. Loved both of them though.

[B.M]

Baker was ridiculously tough - he did some scary brave things

He also did some shameful things

Thing about Baker - he was only 5’10 and 80kg

[mad saint guy]

Paton & Battle whilst reasonable picks do not fit the criteria IMO when compared with Wilkie, Marshall, Sinclair, Membrey etc.

I can see Paton and Battle being mainstays in our B&F top 10 for many years to come. Excellent value for picks 39 and 46

[B.M]

Battle will finish top 10 in this years B&F

Probably 7th or 8th imo

[D.B.Cooper]

Baker was ridiculously tough - he did some scary brave things

He also did some shameful things

Thing about Baker - he was only 5’10 and 80kg

It’s not the size of the dog in the fight…

[D.B.Cooper]

Steven Baker

Pick 28 1998

Small, not quick, not skilled

But probably pound for pound the toughest player ever to pull on the jumper

Best and Fairest
200 games

I wasn’t around to see Eric Guy, but my Dad thought he was the toughest ever. A few other old timers agreed.

I was in the Saints rooms at half at Glenferrie oval with my old man in the early 60 against those hawk pricks and that absolute filthy mongrel Brendon Edwards.

Saints were just starting to come good with a young coach named Allan Jeans.

The hawks had monstered the saints and half the players were getting pain killing injections. The docs approached Guy with their needles. I remember clearly he waving them away and telling them to f*** off.

I was also at the JO the day he shirtfronted Bobby Skilton. I thought he had killed him.

There is no doubt in my mind that Guy was by far the toughest Saint and one of the toughest men to play the game.

Baker was not in the same league and was more of a sniper. Loved both of them though.

My old man agreed, Eric Guy was the toughest player he ever saw.

He was born in StKilda in the 1920’s.
My old man that is.

[spert]

Not sure how you measure toughness, but Ian Stewart was the toughest player I've seen-didn't go around flattening blokes, just totally fearless and put his head where others didn't- and won the ball more times than not

[whiskers3614]

Not sure how you measure toughness, but Ian Stewart was the toughest player I've seen-didn't go around flattening blokes, just totally fearless and put his head where others didn't- and won the ball more times than not

Apparently put other parts of his anatomy where he should not and that’s why Yabbie wanted him gone!

[saynta]

Not sure how you measure toughness, but Ian Stewart was the toughest player I've seen-didn't go around flattening blokes, just totally fearless and put his head where others didn't- and won the ball more times than not

Apparently put other parts of his anatomy where he should not and that’s why Yabbie wanted him gone!

Yep, heard that from the old man who was great mates with Ian Drake.

[kosifantutti]

This recruiting caper not that easy. Be interesting to do a thread on the bad selections

No it wouldn’t. There’s hundreds of threads on that topic. That was the point of this thread.

Jack Steele for a future second rounder was a good pick up. I think Windhager and Owens will be in the same category.

[terry smith rules]

Jason Heatley

1996 pick 49

73 goals in 97

Ah you stole my thunder

In 97/98 he was sensational, went at over 70% in those two years for accuracy

I can’t remember did injuries cruel him, cause he was gone pretty quickly after that

[older saint]

Jason Heatley

1996 pick 49

73 goals in 97

Ah you stole my thunder

In 97/98 he was sensational, went at over 70% in those two years for accuracy

I can’t remember did injuries cruel him, cause he was gone pretty quickly after that

Met him at a 40th a few years ago. Over a few beers he talked about his love for the club and didn't have a bad word to say about Alves either. Actually mentioned he offered to go down and do goal kicking training ( around the time they hired Dixon) . Some there were keen but Dixon was bought in and everyone else was hands off. Best kick for goal i saw since plugger

[The G Train Legacy]

Wasn't Sinclair a rookie?

[The G Train Legacy]

We will be amazed that we got Cooper Sharman in a mid season draft.