De Goey 5 year deal 800 a year.!!

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Post: # 1962128Post older saint »

No No No , while not Andy Lovett has potential to be as bad a recruitment.
Has enormous ability and if ever got fit could easily be top 10 in the league, but at age 26 still hasn't, surrounded himself with yes people which says he doesn't like being told he is wrong, and would cost a lot of coin.
For that money you need to be getting not only a star player but also a clean skin that can help bring that amount and then some in the door with performance and sponsorship - he presents the opposite.
Rather use funds on Amon and keep existing young talent.


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Post: # 1962130Post B.M »

So

We don’t back our leadership and culture

Lethlean, Ratten, Steele

To get him on the right track?

Soft imo


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Post: # 1962133Post The Fireman »

surely the contract would come with a
caveat

get him


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Post: # 1962138Post SinCitySainter »

The Collingwood fans I know would love to see the back of him. He is good one game in three and a star one in ten but he can have a magical moment. For $800K a year you want a consistent game changer or midfield dynamo not an inconsistent occasional star. Yes Hannebury was a mistake but that doesn't mean we should burn the cash we save on the next shiny thing particularly as the shine is more than a little tainted.


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Post: # 1962139Post repta »

5 years no way
Gun footballer
structure the deal 3 year plus 2 if meets certain benchmarks

Would want to know about the strikes. How many is he already on

then do some real vetting about training standards.

Bali incident is an absolute storm about nothing.


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Post: # 1962141Post shanegrambeau »

Jordan De Goey;

A mixture of brawn and brains.

He has fought and punched in St Kilda.
He had claimed he was bitten by a dog in St Kilda.

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Post: # 1962142Post The Fireman »

His contract should include a clause where good performance is rewarded with bonus drink tickets and night club passes



He would win a brownlow


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Post: # 1962153Post B.M »

There is no problem with his training or footy for that matter

It’s his extra curricular activities that get him in the s***!


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Post: # 1962167Post Ghost Like »

Walking out on Collingwood is an interesting move. Not what I would have advised but works for whichever club signs him.


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Post: # 1962180Post Zed »

B.M wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 5:45pm So

We don’t back our leadership and culture

Lethlean, Ratten, Steele

To get him on the right track?

Soft imo
Apart from Steele, our onfield leadership is weak as.
We are the most mentally brittle team in the comp. I’m struggling to see us managing him any better than Collingwood.
The only way it works is if JDG buys in and owns the change , like Dusty did at Richmond.
If he buys in, truly buys in, he would be worth the $800k pa


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Post: # 1962186Post wally »

Being a pessimist I can see the mental health coming into play after all else goes pear shaped and we keep having to pay ala Jack Steven


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Post: # 1962188Post saintbob »

f*** Hannebery off and go all in, 5yr deal @ 650k with incentives and clauses.

He couldn’t expect to get 800k now, without some protection for the club
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like Dusty did at Richmond.
could should have been
like Dusty did at St Kilda


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Post: # 1962190Post asiu »

Controversial Collingwood star Jordan De Goey has been given personal leave by the AFL club, with no time frame set on his return.

Key points:

De Goey will "undertake further behavioural education" but has avoided any suspension
The Magpies have suspended contract negotiations with the troubled 26-year-old
De Goey was expected to front the media in coming days, but it is unclear if that will happen now


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B.M wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 3:42pm He’s only 26 - hardly been injured

Danger went to Geelong at that age

Mate, I don’t give a rats if he f***s chickens if he helps us win finals!!!

Some of our best players were questionable on the piss

And we had Milne & Montagna
Sam Fisher
Sam Gilbert
Jason Gram

In our 2nd most successful era

The only bloke I did put a line through
Andrew Lovett
Hate women bashers

And we had Ian Stewart in our most successful era.


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Post: # 1962196Post sendmehomehappy »

Furthermore,

Since Finniss has been at Moorabbin, and St Kilda has morphed into the wokest team in the league; the team that aims to please all, the player collective that will bend over for any and every other club, it has done SFA on the field where it counts.

And that is the point of it all.


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Post: # 1962199Post shanegrambeau »

sendmehomehappy wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 11:16pm Furthermore,

Since Finniss has been at Moorabbin, and St Kilda has morphed into the wokest team in the league; the team that aims to please all, the player collective that will bend over for any and every other club, it has done SFA on the field where it counts.

And that is the point of it all.
Ironic.

St Kilda (sans Gold Coast, GWS) - the league's biggest welfare recipient.
The league's co-dependence with gambling grows ever deeper and more entrenched.
St Kilda itself is a no gambling, no casino, no pokies team...

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/comme ... th-the-afl


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Post: # 1962200Post markp »

Surely by far the greatest risk in giving a big contract to any player (including De Goey) is the risk of long-term physical injury.

Then there's also the risk of mental health problems developing, depression, addiction.

And then there's the risk that they'll punch or grab someone while out in a nightclub (or similar).

Jordan may be at a slightly more elevated risk for the last one here, but at least you can put caveats in a contract for that (unlike the rest). Also unlike the rest, the risk of occurrence tends to reduce as the player matures.

The Bali thing could be the perfect storm in a teacup. Firstly, it was absolutely nothing. Secondly, it shows to him that his card is stamped at the filth, and he needs a fresh start (which he does). Thirdly, it gives us the chance to nab him with the justification for a heavily conditioned contract.

Of course he'd have to demonstrate and prove he's prepared to buy in, fly right, repay the faith, etc.

But it'd all be worth it just for the first time we pumped the filth with him onboard.


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Post: # 1962201Post Brunswicksainter »

Explain to me who and how de gooey is better than anyone in our current midfield? Which is not saying much given our current midfield is terrible


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markp wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 11:52pm Surely by far the greatest risk in giving a big contract to any player (including De Goey) is the risk of long-term physical injury.

Then there's also the risk of mental health problems developing, depression, addiction.

And then there's the risk that they'll punch or grab someone while out in a nightclub (or similar).

Jordan may be at a slightly more elevated risk for the last one here, but at least you can put caveats in a contract for that (unlike the rest). Also unlike the rest, the risk of occurrence tends to reduce as the player matures.

The Bali thing could be the perfect storm in a teacup. Firstly, it was absolutely nothing. Secondly, it shows to him that his card is stamped at the filth, and he needs a fresh start (which he does). Thirdly, it gives us the chance to nab him with the justification for a heavily conditioned contract.

Of course he'd have to demonstrate and prove he's prepared to buy in, fly right, repay the faith, etc.

But it'd all be worth it just for the first time we pumped the filth with him onboard.
Would we ban him from,

1) Flying out to Bali in the bye week?
2) Enjoying beers from time to time?
3) Partying in the off-season?


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Post: # 1962203Post ace »

800 a year, that less than the minimum wage.
Gee I think some illiterate Indian laborers may have been paid that in Saudi Arabia but it is not a living wage in Australia.

If I were De Goey I would try for 800k


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Post: # 1962222Post Teflon »

He’s hit his peak he is not getting any better
It’s downhill from here
3 years max 7-750 max
No way I’d do 5
3 years he’s 30 then re-look at it
Let Bombers chew their cap and p!ss off all their current players by bringing in something on 5 years at 800+


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Scollop wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 4:34pm
Vortex wrote: Tue 21 Jun 2022 10:14pm Since when did Gerard Whately become our self righteous moral compass. I've listened to him today lead the chorus of lynchers and absolutely run a poor human being into the ground relentlessly pushing his moralistic virtue signalling, someone needs to call him out, the slimly little prick works for an organisation that prides itself on wall to wall long legged blond woman being the hook for generations of men and that is largely funded by the proceeds of gambling and the sale of booze. Similarly to the treatment he orchestrated against the cricketers during the sand paper event, he is an authorised bully and needs to be called out for it.
Speaking of out… I’m wondering when Gerard will come ‘out’ of the the closet

Gerard is such a drama queen isn’t he?
I don't mind him when he's not running a self righteous morals campaign to relentlessly attack another human being.

His platform allows him to start his day on radio and encourage tbe pile on with talk back and then finish the person off on the TV at night.. It's authorises bullying. And the irony and double standard is he works for an employer who's hook for generations of men is objectifying long legged blond woman, hypocritical much.


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Vortex wrote: Thu 23 Jun 2022 8:38am
Scollop wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 4:34pm
Vortex wrote: Tue 21 Jun 2022 10:14pm Since when did Gerard Whately become our self righteous moral compass. I've listened to him today lead the chorus of lynchers and absolutely run a poor human being into the ground relentlessly pushing his moralistic virtue signalling, someone needs to call him out, the slimly little prick works for an organisation that prides itself on wall to wall long legged blond woman being the hook for generations of men and that is largely funded by the proceeds of gambling and the sale of booze. Similarly to the treatment he orchestrated against the cricketers during the sand paper event, he is an authorised bully and needs to be called out for it.
Speaking of out… I’m wondering when Gerard will come ‘out’ of the the closet

Gerard is such a drama queen isn’t he?
I don't mind him when he's not running a self righteous morals campaign to relentlessly attack another human being.

His platform allows him to start his day on radio and encourage tbe pile on with talk back and then finish the person off on the TV at night.. It's authorises bullying. And the irony and double standard is he works for an employer who's hook for generations of men is objectifying long legged blond woman, hypocritical much.
Bastard. What about brunettes? Sorry, couldn't walk passed it.


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Post: # 1962246Post desertsaint »

The Fireman wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 6:31pm His contract should include a clause where good performance is rewarded with bonus drink tickets and night club passes



He would win a brownlow
Absolutely!*

*redeemable in 2030.


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