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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Aren't there like a dozen De Konings? Shouldn't each Victorian club get one? Seems fair.


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Saints58 wrote: Mon 29 Aug 2022 5:59pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 29 Aug 2022 4:28pm Posters on BF are suggesting we are looking to bring in F/A Darcy Gardiner from Brisbane? I guess that answers our backup key defender needs to a degree?
Not another 194cm player we have a few players around that height highmore 193,sharmon 193,hayes 194,Alliston 195,Battle 193
How many more do we need what we do need is a big unit around 197cm and up to help Dougal against the big forwards.
There isnt many around and none who are free agents. Gardiner does fill in for Harris when he is out, so maybe he is a bit more prepared for the role.

If I had to chose for the club Id be going after Billy Frampton 201cm (ruckman turned key defender) at the Crows who is out of contract, so it would mean giving up pick or getting as a DFA. He would at least give us some big man versatility, but apparently Collingwood are chasing him also?


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

Post: # 1978004Post PADDLEPOP1001 »

Tom Clurey from Port is someone I have always thought is a good backman & would be a handy trade!


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Looking forward to seeing Blake Acres in a Carlton jumper. 😡😡


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Rumour is that Tom Mitchell is being considered by the powers that be. Just a rumour at this point.


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

Post: # 1978057Post B.M »

Why would we want a slow inside - handball first accumulator - clearance mid

When we have

Steele
Crouch
Ross


We need a power mid/forward


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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PADDLEPOP1001 wrote: Tue 30 Aug 2022 9:53am Tom Clurey from Port is someone I have always thought is a good backman & would be a handy trade!

Handy player but seems happy at Port.


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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B.M wrote: Tue 30 Aug 2022 11:58pm Why would we want a slow inside - handball first accumulator - clearance mid

When we have

Steele
Crouch
Ross


We need a power mid/forward

That would be a ludicrous decision…De Goey and Zurhar would be good fits.
Zurhar for Hill a fair trade!


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Devilhead wrote: Mon 29 Aug 2022 5:58pm McKenzie looks super sharp in congestion - some highlights of him below v WA in the Championships


Reminds me a bit of Gary Ablett jnr in his early days the way he zips out of heavy traffic!!


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Saintmike65 wrote: Wed 31 Aug 2022 8:31am
Devilhead wrote: Mon 29 Aug 2022 5:58pm McKenzie looks super sharp in congestion - some highlights of him below v WA in the Championships


Reminds me a bit of Gary Ablett jnr in his early days the way he zips out of heavy traffic!!
I've my fingers crossed but suspect we may miss him by 3 or 4 selections.


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Cam McKenzie definitely but he's unlikely to still be on the table at St Kilda's FRDP #10.

But the November draft has a wealth of very promising mids likely to debut in their 1st year, like Windhager and Owens, such as big bodied Elijah Hewett who I've had my eyes on for a while, has that all important x-factor about him too, he's #11 in this clip and forgive me if I've posted this before:



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B.M wrote: Tue 30 Aug 2022 11:58pm Why would we want a slow inside - handball first accumulator - clearance mid

When we have

Steele
Crouch
Ross


We need a power mid/forward

Agree totally and would make zero sense getting Mitchell


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Article on The Age website saying Clarkson has approached Hill and Ben Long.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/cla ... 5bedw.html

Happy for Hill to go at the right price. Would prefer to keep Long.


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Long can walk straight to North for nothing. Hill will require a trade or draft pick or future draft pick, one, two or a mix of all three.


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Royston wrote: Wed 31 Aug 2022 2:13pm
B.M wrote: Tue 30 Aug 2022 11:58pm Why would we want a slow inside - handball first accumulator - clearance mid

When we have

Steele
Crouch
Ross


We need a power mid/forward

Agree totally and would make zero sense getting Mitchell
Sam Edmund was saying that our management have been seeing talking to Tom Mitchel people a few times.
We need young mids and we are losing long to clarko north and Bytel to Essendon who else I here Gresham and Clark are up for trades we will be dads army no players 22-27 left who any good.


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Saints58 wrote: Wed 31 Aug 2022 11:17pm
Royston wrote: Wed 31 Aug 2022 2:13pm
B.M wrote: Tue 30 Aug 2022 11:58pm Why would we want a slow inside - handball first accumulator - clearance mid When we have

Steele
Crouch
Ross
We need a power mid/forward
Agree totally and would make zero sense getting Mitchell
Sam Edmund was saying that our management have been seeing talking to Tom Mitchel people a few times.
We need young mids and we are losing long to clarko north and Bytel to Essendon who else I here Gresham and Clark are up for trades we will be dads army no players 22-27 left who any good.
Mitchell is completely NOT what we need. It would be a deplorable move by the club if they trade for him.


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Ghost Like wrote: Wed 31 Aug 2022 11:03pm Long can walk straight to North for nothing. Hill will require a trade or draft pick or future draft pick, one, two or a mix of all three.
Long is uncontracted but not a F.A. is that right?


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Impatient Sainter wrote: Thu 01 Sep 2022 1:07am
Saints58 wrote: Wed 31 Aug 2022 11:17pm
Royston wrote: Wed 31 Aug 2022 2:13pm
B.M wrote: Tue 30 Aug 2022 11:58pm Why would we want a slow inside - handball first accumulator - clearance mid When we have

Steele
Crouch
Ross
We need a power mid/forward
Agree totally and would make zero sense getting Mitchell
Sam Edmund was saying that our management have been seeing talking to Tom Mitchel people a few times.
We need young mids and we are losing long to clarko north and Bytel to Essendon who else I here Gresham and Clark are up for trades we will be dads army no players 22-27 left who any good.
Mitchell is completely NOT what we need. It would be a deplorable move by the club if they trade for him.

The report was that Mitchell’s manager was seen talking to Saints officials…managers have multiple players on their books, so could have been in relation to any one of his clients.


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st.byron wrote: Thu 01 Sep 2022 8:30am
Ghost Like wrote: Wed 31 Aug 2022 11:03pm Long can walk straight to North for nothing. Hill will require a trade or draft pick or future draft pick, one, two or a mix of all three.
Long is uncontracted but not a F.A. is that right?
Yes but remember North get first pick of the uncontracted and those not drafted, FA & RFA mean nothing.


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

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Wouldnt Long have to negotiate the National Draft first before being available to North in the PSD? If we can't work out a trade deal for him ..... and we have a contract offer on the table for him


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Do we have a contract offer for him do you know what it is how many years


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Got no idea if we do ...... but more than likely we would

I guess that info will come out in the wash soon if Clarkson keeps pushing


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Inside the mind of a superstar: How Petracca is chasing greatness - https://www.afl.com.au/news/832852

Whatever we do this or future trade / draft periods let us not make this mistake again. We are picking young people who want to be the best AFL players they can be, not speak at the UN - that said, he'd probably speak well.

Let this be your legacy Trout, may this always be brought up in your presence. Hard to believe you got paid Club money to make that mistake.


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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

Post: # 1978446Post Wayne42 »

The Saints have NO idea what consitutes a good football club so if they are considering Tom Mitchell then that just proves my point, unfortunately.

Let's recruit for Wooden Spoon number 28, stick to our strengths. :roll: :roll: :roll:


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Re: Trade - Draft 2022 Discussion

Post: # 1978650Post Impatient Sainter »

Brett Delidio claiming that the club is looking to trading in Lachie Whitfield?


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