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Max King

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Goal Kicking

Disgraceful

He kicked 1-7 last week

Missed 2 sodas tonight!!!

Has kicked 19.19 this year - career Career 79.69

For a guy who’s job it is to kick goals - a full time footballer who trains daily

That is fkn unacceptable

And to miss goals from the top of the goal square is absolutely pathetic

A 12yo kid would’ve kicked that goal he missed tonight

Also - clip to the coaches for not improving this!


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Just a flat-track bully. Simple!


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Re: Max King

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SydneySainter wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:32pm Just a flat-track bully. Simple!
Bit rough - he has played some blinders against some very good opponents - the nagging doubt is there [yips] and no amount of coaching can fix that.


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:34pm
SydneySainter wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:32pm Just a flat-track bully. Simple!
Bit rough - he has played some blinders against some very good opponents - the nagging doubt is there [yips] and no amount of coaching can fix that.
Yes, concur. Understand frustration but poor comment and untrue.


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Outside of his goal kicking

His lack of work rate off the ball and his defensive acts are concerning

Never saw Nick Riewoldt jog around on a footy field

He needs to work harder to get separation off the ball and work harder when the opposition has it


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Doesn’t chase backmen when they’ve got the ball and running off him


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seano1 wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:38pm Doesn’t chase backmen when they’ve got the ball and running off him
Rubbish again his opponent was no where to be seen on the rebound.


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:34pm
SydneySainter wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:32pm Just a flat-track bully. Simple!
Bit rough - he has played some blinders against some very good opponents - the nagging doubt is there [yips] and no amount of coaching can fix that.
Stand by it.


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Re: Max King

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Absolute liability when kicking like this.

We lost the game tonight due to poor conversion.

No escaping it.


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SydneySainter wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:32pm Just a flat-track bully. Simple!
Will I be banned if I call you a dick head


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His games are good except for goalkicking and whilst he might kick four or five goals some weeks , he will never kick big bags of seven + while he continues to twirl the effin ball in his hands whilst he is walking in to kick at goal .
I know the coaches probably want him to be relaxed and not overthink it but surely there is someone at the club who could show him footage of all greats over the years and ask him what they have in common .
The Answer .......They hold the ball steady when they have a set shot
It ain't rocket science
The less moving parts the less things can go wrong .


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Why the hell don't we get Plugger down there to give him some tips


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The Fireman wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 12:18am
SydneySainter wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:32pm Just a flat-track bully. Simple!
Will I be banned if I call you a dick head
You'll get upvoted by me


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The Fireman wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 12:18am
SydneySainter wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:32pm Just a flat-track bully. Simple!
Will I be banned if I call you a dick head
Id ban you













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Re: Max King

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CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 12:40am
The Fireman wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 12:18am
SydneySainter wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:32pm Just a flat-track bully. Simple!
Will I be banned if I call you a dick head
Id ban you













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Re: Max King

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He’s missed 2 tonight but it was the nature of the misses (very gettable) and the second one could’ve snuffed port out

To be fair Gresham missed 3
Higgins 3?

So he’s not alone

But where was Membreys goals or Butlers? 8 disposals eff all metres gained….not enough impact tonight


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The Fireman wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 12:18am
SydneySainter wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:32pm Just a flat-track bully. Simple!
Will I be banned if I call you a dick head
Beat me to it


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mr six o'clock wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 12:19am His games are good except for goalkicking and whilst he might kick four or five goals some weeks , he will never kick big bags of seven + while he continues to twirl the effin ball in his hands whilst he is walking in to kick at goal .
I know the coaches probably want him to be relaxed and not overthink it but surely there is someone at the club who could show him footage of all greats over the years and ask him what they have in common .
The Answer .......They hold the ball steady when they have a set shot
It ain't rocket science
The less moving parts the less things can go wrong .
100% correct

Max King's insane twirling of the footy has to stop right now. Even players who twirl the ball stop twirling before the ball drop. With a couple of King's set shots, he was still twirling the ball when he dropped it and so the ball was askew when it hit his foot. Unacceptable. Surely he can be instructed to cut it out.

I pulled some YT clips of the best of the best. Not one of them twirls the ball. They hold it straight and drop it onto the foot dead straight. If Max wants to be among the best of the best, he could do worse than watch and learn from these players.

Doug Wade Wade's set shot is at about 1:49. Before that there are incredible speccys and snaps
Peter McKenna
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Tony Lockett
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Re: Max King

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B.M wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:37pm Outside of his goal kicking

His lack of work rate off the ball and his defensive acts are concerning

Never saw Nick Riewoldt jog around on a footy field

He needs to work harder to get separation off the ball and work harder when the opposition has it
You nailed it.


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SteveStevens66 wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 5:50am
mr six o'clock wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 12:19am His games are good except for goalkicking and whilst he might kick four or five goals some weeks , he will never kick big bags of seven + while he continues to twirl the effin ball in his hands whilst he is walking in to kick at goal .
I know the coaches probably want him to be relaxed and not overthink it but surely there is someone at the club who could show him footage of all greats over the years and ask him what they have in common .
The Answer .......They hold the ball steady when they have a set shot
It ain't rocket science
The less moving parts the less things can go wrong .
100% correct

Max King's insane twirling of the footy has to stop right now. Even players who twirl the ball stop twirling before the ball drop. With a couple of King's set shots, he was still twirling the ball when he dropped it and so the ball was askew when it hit his foot. Unacceptable. Surely he can be instructed to cut it out.

I pulled some YT clips of the best of the best. Not one of them twirls the ball. They hold it straight and drop it onto the foot dead straight. If Max wants to be among the best of the best, he could do worse than watch and learn from these players.
Talking to an NFL kicking coach, he said you have to get the basics right then tailor the rest to what works for you.
Pretty sure this works for AFL as well.

Only my opinion, but I think the basics would be:
- Hold it straight
- Walk in a straight line where you want to kick it
- Drop it straight
- Kick through the ball

You links to the great goal kickers is fantastic.
McKenna & Lockett were the best kicks I have seen and both kept it uncomplicated and made it look routine.

Max looks like he leans back and pokes the short kicks but is well balanced and kicks through it when he's 40+ out.
His ball drop does not look consistent.

He also looks like an injury waiting to happen.
He is so often in big contests.
I don't understand why he can't get on the lead more often, he has the speed and athleticism.


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D.B.Cooper wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 9:24am
He is so often in big contests.
I don't understand why he can't get on the lead more often, he has the speed and athleticism.
Chicken - Egg time

Does he lead first and after a couple of games of the ball being kicked over his head we revert to him contesting

Or

Do we kick it to space and see it taken away like AA did last night - and then revert to kicking to a contest

Meh - just put the bl00dy thing through the big sticks - he gets it enough - my biggest concern is the ball twirling and drop. If he had kicked at league standard the last two weeks he would have a return of 7.5 rather than 3.9


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 9:30am
D.B.Cooper wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 9:24am
He is so often in big contests.
I don't understand why he can't get on the lead more often, he has the speed and athleticism.
Chicken - Egg time

Does he lead first and after a couple of games of the ball being kicked over his head we revert to him contesting

Or

Do we kick it to space and see it taken away like AA did last night - and then revert to kicking to a contest

Meh - just put the bl00dy thing through the big sticks - he gets it enough - my biggest concern is the ball twirling and drop. If he had kicked at league standard the last two weeks he would have a return of 7.5 rather than 3.9
No doubt the short range kicking of King and Higgins is currently the difference between winning and losing a close match or turning what should have been a very comfortable win against GWS into a match that was in the balance with 7 or 8 minutes to play.

It must be demoralizing for the mids and backs to bust their gut then get let down when professional forwards cannot convert from 15 - 30 meters out at barely any angle.


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A knock on Max King as a junior was his goal kicking- poor conversion

It’s funny because his brother Ben is very accurate


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B.M wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 10:51am A knock on Max King as a junior was his goal kicking- poor conversion

It’s funny because his brother Ben is very accurate
Ben might just be better at Rock/Paper/Scissors

Back yard footy
R/P/S who kicks AT goal - who defends

Maybe Ben got more shots at goal as a 9 year old!!


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Re: Max King

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Hayes would have been handy last night as would have been Marshall. A strong body and older head up forward to take some pressure off King.

He must feel the weight of expectation every time he lines up for a soda. You can almost see it as he prepares. It’s a lot of pressure for a young guy.

I don’t expect him to kick and convert like Plugger. No one does. But he can work on pressure-proofing his kicking.

That starts with technique. Head over the ball. Simple ball drop (no waving it around). Kick through the ball.

But aim is the most critical thing of all.

He should be trying to land it on the head of a guy he’s picked out in the crowd. Not short of him or over him, but directly on top of his scone. In the words of legendary golf instructor Harvey Penick, Take Dead Aim.


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