Frees for and against.

[saintbob]

When you’re continually 2nd for the ball like we were last night, then you’re always going to get more frees against than for.

Can’t blame the umps we were absolutely disgraceful last night, END OF STORY!!!

Garbage.

The bulls*** that defenders get away with on King is cheating and biased.

I think it’s time for you to take the rose coloured glasses off, Curly.

I think you mean ‘rose coloured monocle’!

[saynta]

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. 17 point loss

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Tigers 27 for .....19 against. 33 point win.

Saints v Hawks 27 for .......25 against. 69 point win.

Saints v Suns 18 for ......15 against. 26 point win

Saints v Giants 21 for ......26 against. 17 point win

Saints v Port 26 for ........20 against. 1 point loss

Saints v Demons 18 for.......25 against. 38 point loss

Saints v Cats 19 for...........19 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Crows 20 for..........31 against. 21 point win.

Saints v Roos 21 for............18 against. 53 point win.

Saints v Lions 20 for............28 against. 21 point loss.

Saints v Dons 25 for............ 20 against. 35 point loss.

Saints v Swans 12 for...........27 against. 51 point loss.

Saints v Blues 9 for ..............21 against. 15 point win.

I hope those cheating maggots lost all their hard earned.

[Sainter_Dad]

Opposition	Frees For	Frees Against	Result
Collingwood	18	25	Loss - 17
Fremantle	24	27	Win - 10
Richmond	27	19	Win - 33
Hawthorn	27	25	Win - 69
Gold Coast	18	15	Win - 26
Greater Western Sydney	21	26	Win - 17
Port Adelaide	26	20	Loss - 1
Melbourne	18	25	Loss - 38
Geelong	19	19	Win - 10
Adelaide	20	31	Win - 21
North Melbourne	21	18	Win - 53
Brisbane	20	28	Loss - 21
Essendon	25	20	Loss - 35
Sydney	12	27	Loss - 51
Carlton	9	21	Win -15
.	_____	_____
Total	305	346

[Ghost Like]

Our lowest Frees For game by a long way. Carlton must be such an incredibly fair, disciplined and highly skilled team. Makes the win so much sweeter TBH.

[Beno88]

Our lowest Frees For game by a long way. Carlton must be such an incredibly fair, disciplined and highly skilled team. Makes the win so much sweeter TBH.

Least in a game since the 2020 Elimination Final, when we had 8, albeit in shortened quarters.

[SaintDippa]

Both inside mids Crouch and especially Jones get tackled, hold the ball in and create the stoppage.
Sam Walsh, Selwood, Shuey, Ginnivan, ... (You can fill in another six repeat offenders) drop their shoulders on impact and get the head high.
That's 10 frees a game for the taking if we want to cheat.

[saynta]

Our lowest Frees For game by a long way. Carlton must be such an incredibly fair, disciplined and highly skilled team. Makes the win so much sweeter TBH.

I actually had a Collingwood supporting friend ring me at half time to tell me how much the maggots were screwing us. And again when it was clear we were going to win despite those see you next tuesdays.

Notwithstanding that a loss by us was clearly in Collingwood's interests.

[saynta]

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. 17 point loss

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Tigers 27 for .....19 against. 33 point win.

Saints v Hawks 27 for .......25 against. 69 point win.

Saints v Suns 18 for ......15 against. 26 point win

Saints v Giants 21 for ......26 against. 17 point win

Saints v Port 26 for ........20 against. 1 point loss

Saints v Demons 18 for.......25 against. 38 point loss

Saints v Cats 19 for...........19 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Crows 20 for..........31 against. 21 point win.

Saints v Roos 21 for............18 against. 53 point win.

Saints v Lions 20 for............28 against. 21 point loss.

Saints v Dons 25 for............ 20 against. 35 point loss.

Saints v Swans 12 for...........27 against. 51 point loss.

Saints v Blues 9 for ..............21 against. 15 point win.

saints v Dockers 22 for .......17 against. 41 point loss.

And Curly though last weeK's maggot display was bad.

[saynta]

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. 17 point loss

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Tigers 27 for .....19 against. 33 point win.

Saints v Hawks 27 for .......25 against. 69 point win.

Saints v Suns 18 for ......15 against. 26 point win

Saints v Giants 21 for ......26 against. 17 point win

Saints v Port 26 for ........20 against. 1 point loss

Saints v Demons 18 for.......25 against. 38 point loss

Saints v Cats 19 for...........19 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Crows 20 for..........31 against. 21 point win.

Saints v Roos 21 for............18 against. 53 point win.

Saints v Lions 20 for............28 against. 21 point loss.

Saints v Dons 25 for............ 20 against. 35 point loss.

Saints v Swans 12 for...........27 against. 51 point loss.

Saints v Blues 9 for ..............21 against. 15 point win.

Saints v Dockers 22 for .......17 against. 41 point loss.

Saints v Bulldogs 11 for.........12 against. 28 point loss.

[saynta]

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. 17 point loss

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Tigers 27 for .....19 against. 33 point win.

Saints v Hawks 27 for .......25 against. 69 point win.

Saints v Suns 18 for ......15 against. 26 point win

Saints v Giants 21 for ......26 against. 17 point win

Saints v Port 26 for ........20 against. 1 point loss

Saints v Demons 18 for.......25 against. 38 point loss

Saints v Cats 19 for...........19 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Crows 20 for..........31 against. 21 point win.

Saints v Roos 21 for............18 against. 53 point win.

Saints v Lions 20 for............28 against. 21 point loss.

Saints v Dons 25 for............ 20 against. 35 point loss.

Saints v Swans 12 for...........27 against. 51 point loss.

Saints v Blues 9 for ..............21 against. 15 point win.

Saints v Dockers 22 for .......17 against. 41 point loss.

Saints v Bulldogs 11 for.........12 against. 28 point loss.

Saints v Eagles 19 for.............26 against. 28 point win.

Bit of evening up there done in the 4th Q

[Beno88]

St Kilda's last 8 games vs West Coast in Perth

Frees For : 106
Frees Against : 183

West Coast average 9.6 more frees per game.

[CURLY]

St Kilda's last 8 games vs West Coast in Perth

Frees For : 106
Frees Against : 183

West Coast average 9.6 more frees per game.

No bias though

[saynta]

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. 17 point loss

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Tigers 27 for .....19 against. 33 point win.

Saints v Hawks 27 for .......25 against. 69 point win.

Saints v Suns 18 for ......15 against. 26 point win

Saints v Giants 21 for ......26 against. 17 point win

Saints v Port 26 for ........20 against. 1 point loss

Saints v Demons 18 for.......25 against. 38 point loss

Saints v Cats 19 for...........19 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Crows 20 for..........31 against. 21 point win.

Saints v Roos 21 for............18 against. 53 point win.

Saints v Lions 20 for............28 against. 21 point loss.

Saints v Dons 25 for............ 20 against. 35 point loss.

Saints v Swans 12 for...........27 against. 51 point loss.

Saints v Blues 9 for ..............21 against. 15 point win.

Saints v Dockers 22 for .......17 against. 41 point loss.

Saints v Bulldogs 11 for.........12 against. 28 point loss.

Saints v Eagles 19 for.............26 against. 28 point win.

Saints v Hawks 19 for.............17 against. 12 point win

Maggots obviously keep count of frees or check at half time as we were 12 for and 5 against at one stage

[saynta]

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. 17 point loss

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Tigers 27 for .....19 against. 33 point win.

Saints v Hawks 27 for .......25 against. 69 point win.

Saints v Suns 18 for ......15 against. 26 point win

Saints v Giants 21 for ......26 against. 17 point win

Saints v Port 26 for ........20 against. 1 point loss

Saints v Demons 18 for.......25 against. 38 point loss

Saints v Cats 19 for...........19 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Crows 20 for..........31 against. 21 point win.

Saints v Roos 21 for............18 against. 53 point win.

Saints v Lions 20 for............28 against. 21 point loss.

Saints v Dons 25 for............ 20 against. 35 point loss.

Saints v Swans 12 for...........27 against. 51 point loss.

Saints v Blues 9 for ..............21 against. 15 point win.

Saints v Dockers 22 for .......17 against. 41 point loss.

Saints v Bulldogs 11 for.........12 against. 28 point loss.

Saints v Eagles 19 for.............26 against. 28 point win.

Saints v Hawks 19 for.............17 against. 12 point win

Saints v Cats 19 for...............20 against. 45 point loss

[older saint]

Apart from a couple which despite what they say have bias i honestly think having watched a lot of footy this year they are just BAD!

Scott has confused them with interpretation and the interpretation was different each umpire. Hawkins was waving his arms everywhere last night when we took marks and no umpire dissent. Round 2 this would have been 100 mt penalty

[saynta]

Apart from a couple which despite what they say have bias i honestly think having watched a lot of footy this year they are just BAD!

Scott has confused them with interpretation and the interpretation was different each umpire. Hawkins was waving his arms everywhere last night when we took marks and no umpire dissent. Round 2 this would have been 100 mt penalty

Cats are the dirtyist bunch of footballers going around at the moment and the maggots are partly to blame as they let them get away with their unlawful filthy tactics

[Laurie]

Oh well s*** happens.
Blame the umpires.
Bottom line is we do not have the cattle ..

[The Fireman]

If banging on about the umpiring takes your mind off the fact that we have a side that is poorly skilled and has no game plan then go for it if it helps
Problem with that is that it is non-productive imagine how many times and umpire has reversed a decision when someone complains… never right?
Bitching and moaning about it on here achieves even less
Turn your thoughts towards making our crap side better

[older saint]

If banging on about the umpiring takes your mind off the fact that we have a side that is poorly skilled and has no game plan then go for it if it helps
Problem with that is that it is non-productive imagine how many times and umpire has reversed a decision when someone complains… never right?
Bitching and moaning about it on here achieves even less
Turn your thoughts towards making our crap side better

or perhaps people are just using it as a way to vent rather than letting it build up and exploding at people ?

I am definitely not blaming umpires for losses however that doesn't exclude sub standard performance .

[The Fireman]

If banging on about the umpiring takes your mind off the fact that we have a side that is poorly skilled and has no game plan then go for it if it helps
Problem with that is that it is non-productive imagine how many times and umpire has reversed a decision when someone complains… never right?
Bitching and moaning about it on here achieves even less
Turn your thoughts towards making our crap side better

or perhaps people are just using it as a way to vent rather than letting it build up and exploding at people ?

I am definitely not blaming umpires for losses however that doesn't exclude sub standard performance .

I have to agree there has been a lot of exploding going on lately
So I get it umpire bashing is therapeutic
I have to admit i used to bash the umpires all the time over a period of time I started to realise just causing me angst

[saynta]

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. 17 point loss

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Tigers 27 for .....19 against. 33 point win.

Saints v Hawks 27 for .......25 against. 69 point win.

Saints v Suns 18 for ......15 against. 26 point win

Saints v Giants 21 for ......26 against. 17 point win

Saints v Port 26 for ........20 against. 1 point loss

Saints v Demons 18 for.......25 against. 38 point loss

Saints v Cats 19 for...........19 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Crows 20 for..........31 against. 21 point win.

Saints v Roos 21 for............18 against. 53 point win.

Saints v Lions 20 for............28 against. 21 point loss.

Saints v Dons 25 for............ 20 against. 35 point loss.

Saints v Swans 12 for...........27 against. 51 point loss.

Saints v Blues 9 for ..............21 against. 15 point win.

Saints v Dockers 22 for .......17 against. 41 point loss.

Saints v Bulldogs 11 for.........12 against. 28 point loss.

Saints v Eagles 19 for.............26 against. 28 point win.

Saints v Hawks 19 for.............17 against. 12 point win

Saints v Cats 19 for...............20 against. 45 point loss

Saints v Lions 15 for ............12 against. 15 point loss.

[saynta]

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. 17 point loss

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Tigers 27 for .....19 against. 33 point win.

Saints v Hawks 27 for .......25 against. 69 point win.

Saints v Suns 18 for ......15 against. 26 point win

Saints v Giants 21 for ......26 against. 17 point win

Saints v Port 26 for ........20 against. 1 point loss

Saints v Demons 18 for.......25 against. 38 point loss

Saints v Cats 19 for...........19 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Crows 20 for..........31 against. 21 point win.

Saints v Roos 21 for............18 against. 53 point win.

Saints v Lions 20 for............28 against. 21 point loss.

Saints v Dons 25 for............ 20 against. 35 point loss.

Saints v Swans 12 for...........27 against. 51 point loss.

Saints v Blues 9 for ..............21 against. 15 point win.

Saints v Dockers 22 for .......17 against. 41 point loss.

Saints v Bulldogs 11 for.........12 against. 28 point loss.

Saints v Eagles 19 for.............26 against. 28 point win.

Saints v Hawks 19 for.............17 against. 12 point win

Saints v Cats 19 for...............20 against. 45 point loss

Saints v Lions 15 for ............12 against. 15 point loss.

Saints v Swans 22 for ............17 against. 14 point loss.

Just goes to show that it is not the number of frees received but where on the ground they are paid.

[D.B.Cooper]

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. 17 point loss

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Tigers 27 for .....19 against. 33 point win.

Saints v Hawks 27 for .......25 against. 69 point win.

Saints v Suns 18 for ......15 against. 26 point win

Saints v Giants 21 for ......26 against. 17 point win

Saints v Port 26 for ........20 against. 1 point loss

Saints v Demons 18 for.......25 against. 38 point loss

Saints v Cats 19 for...........19 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Crows 20 for..........31 against. 21 point win.

Saints v Roos 21 for............18 against. 53 point win.

Saints v Lions 20 for............28 against. 21 point loss.

Saints v Dons 25 for............ 20 against. 35 point loss.

Saints v Swans 12 for...........27 against. 51 point loss.

Saints v Blues 9 for ..............21 against. 15 point win.

Saints v Dockers 22 for .......17 against. 41 point loss.

Saints v Bulldogs 11 for.........12 against. 28 point loss.

Saints v Eagles 19 for.............26 against. 28 point win.

Saints v Hawks 19 for.............17 against. 12 point win

Saints v Cats 19 for...............20 against. 45 point loss

Saints v Lions 15 for ............12 against. 15 point loss.

Saints v Swans 22 for ............17 against. 14 point loss.

Just goes to show that it is not the number of frees received but where on the ground they are paid.

Before last nights match (I think) we were:
For 402 Against 332
Easily the best positive ratio in the comp.

Questions:
- why are the umps favoring us?
- have we improved or is it umpire favoritism?
- interestingly we were positive ratios in 09 & 10, is it the cuddly RTB factor?

[saynta]

Nah, the boss , who is a die hard saints supporter has told the maggots that they will face the sack if they don't give the saints a fair go this year.

[Mr Magic]

From my observations at the game, the umpires were red hot on htb last night, something I hadn’t seen all year with the new interpretation (this year) of prior opportunity
As a result of our fanatical tackling pressure we received a string of frees for tackles that had mostly been unrewarded all season.