Frees for and against.

[saynta]

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. 17 point loss

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. 10 point win.

Saints v Tigers 27 for .....19 against. 33 point win.

[WellardSaint]

Jack Hayes tackled a Docker, and maggot pinged him for 'rough tackle'.
Goal.
About 2 mins later, Crouch earned a free for an almost identical tackle. WTAF.

Another one- just below where I was sitting, Higgins on the flank near 50, kicked towards goal, was pushed right in the back, not the side, nothing. We all screamed at Ump #29.

There were a lot more that were either not paid to us, or paid against us.

Oh, there was one in the Freo fwd 50 where the ump closest to play, his head spun around to an ump 40m away, then decided to give Freo a free. We were dumbfounded.

[CURLY]

Collingwood on Saturday 30-14 so they are 23 in the positive in two games.

[CURLY]

Collingwood also scored 33 points from free kicks in the first half.

[The_Dud]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

[saynta]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

[CURLY]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

[Ghost Like]

saynta,

This will be a good thread to bump each week with an update...

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. - LOSS 17 points

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. - WIN 10 points

[saynta]

saynta,

This will be a good thread to bump each week with an update...

Saints v Filth 18 for....25 against. - LOSS 17 points

Saints v Shockers 24 for....27 against. - WIN 10 points

Done.

[The_Dud]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

And if yourself and Stinger were non biased we wouldn't have multiple umpiring threads every single week.

[CURLY]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

And if yourself and Stinger were non biased we wouldn't have multiple umpiring threads every single week.

What did you think Dud of the umpire deciding to ignore Max getting taken high in the first?

[saynta]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

And if yourself and Stinger were non biased we wouldn't have multiple umpiring threads every single week.

What did you think Dud of the umpire deciding to ignore Max getting taken high in the first?

He wouldn't know. He wasn't even watching.

[The_Dud]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

And if yourself and Stinger were non biased we wouldn't have multiple umpiring threads every single week.

What did you think Dud of the umpire deciding to ignore Max getting taken high in the first?

Stinger is right, I missed the start of the game but saw a replay of that incident, and it was obviously a mistake by the umpires, as they are human...

From when I did start watching the umpiring was fine, and I saw us receive multiple shots at goal from free kicks.

Also yourself and the rest getting all hot under the collar about the last free and goal to Freo is exactly why the umps can never win. That was 100% the correct decision according to the rules, but as you don't understand the rule you abuse the ump. Its a bad rule, not bad umpiring.

[CURLY]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

And if yourself and Stinger were non biased we wouldn't have multiple umpiring threads every single week.

What did you think Dud of the umpire deciding to ignore Max getting taken high in the first?

Stinger is right, I missed the start of the game but saw a replay of that incident, and it was obviously a mistake by the umpires, as they are human...

From when I did start watching the umpiring was fine, and I saw us receive multiple shots at goal from free kicks.

Also yourself and the rest getting all hot under the collar about the last free and goal to Freo is exactly why the umps can never win. That was 100% the correct decision according to the rules, but as you don't understand the rule you abuse the ump. Its a bad rule, not bad umpiring.

So what your saying is that a umpire in full sight missed the most obvious free but then pulled a speculative free to gift them a goal. Thats what you said right?

[Yorkeys]

If there is an impenetrable pack, such as Darrah found himself at the bottom of it, and the umpire decides he is not going to bounce i.e. there is no scrum time limit, it is then incumbent on the ump to communicate: sing out loudly and often "play on. play on, until your arms give out, play on". But to do nothing waiting an inordinate amount of time until the bewildered players finally look up/around thinking WTF, has the ump fainted, then saying "gotcha" you stopped trying to punch a ball that was never going to be able to come out, is very poor umpiring. Entrapment.

[Mr Magic]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

And if yourself and Stinger were non biased we wouldn't have multiple umpiring threads every single week.

What did you think Dud of the umpire deciding to ignore Max getting taken high in the first?

Stinger is right, I missed the start of the game but saw a replay of that incident, and it was obviously a mistake by the umpires, as they are human...

From when I did start watching the umpiring was fine, and I saw us receive multiple shots at goal from free kicks.

Also yourself and the rest getting all hot under the collar about the last free and goal to Freo is exactly why the umps can never win. That was 100% the correct decision according to the rules, but as you don't understand the rule you abuse the ump. Its a bad rule, not bad umpiring.

Actually I think you are incorrect.
The rule is perfectly fine - it's there to stop one player smashing a defenseless player into the turf and possibly causing head damage.
A perfectly reasonable rule that I've seen perfectly umpired on numerous occasions.
In the instance on Sunday night I believe the umpire thought that Hayes was going to smash the Freo player's head into the turf and blew the whistle.
He was wrong - it never happened and once again an incorrect decision was adjudicated because an umpire guessed instead if paying what he actually saw.

[Yorkeys]

Possibly three worse decisions/non decisions this weekend. Max head bump, play on. Lachie O'Brien Blues, dives in fair tackle, free, goal. Free against Hayes for a perfect tackle.

[saynta]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

And if yourself and Stinger were non biased we wouldn't have multiple umpiring threads every single week.

What did you think Dud of the umpire deciding to ignore Max getting taken high in the first?

Stinger is right, I missed the start of the game but saw a replay of that incident, and it was obviously a mistake by the umpires, as they are human...

From when I did start watching the umpiring was fine, and I saw us receive multiple shots at goal from free kicks.

Also yourself and the rest getting all hot under the collar about the last free and goal to Freo is exactly why the umps can never win. That was 100% the correct decision according to the rules, but as you don't understand the rule you abuse the ump. Its a bad rule, not bad umpiring.

So what your saying is that a umpire in full sight missed the most obvious free but then pulled a speculative free to gift them a goal. Thats what you said right?

[st.byron]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

And if yourself and Stinger were non biased we wouldn't have multiple umpiring threads every single week.

What did you think Dud of the umpire deciding to ignore Max getting taken high in the first?

Stinger is right, I missed the start of the game but saw a replay of that incident, and it was obviously a mistake by the umpires, as they are human...

From when I did start watching the umpiring was fine, and I saw us receive multiple shots at goal from free kicks.

Also yourself and the rest getting all hot under the collar about the last free and goal to Freo is exactly why the umps can never win. That was 100% the correct decision according to the rules, but as you don't understand the rule you abuse the ump. Its a bad rule, not bad umpiring.

I think in the case of the free against Hayes, the umpire was actually behind Hayes and Collyer. We had the benefit of the front on TV view and IMO it was never a free kick. It wasn't a dangerous tackle. It was just a good solid tackle. Maybe the ump being behind the two players gave him the impression it was something more than it was.

[saynta]

Maggots are like cricket umpires, They are not supposed to guess.

[CarlD]

Possibly three worse decisions/non decisions this weekend. Max head bump, play on. Lachie O'Brien Blues, dives in fair tackle, free, goal. Free against Hayes for a perfect tackle.

I was expecting O'Brien to win an Oscar today for that effort.

[The_Dud]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

And if yourself and Stinger were non biased we wouldn't have multiple umpiring threads every single week.

What did you think Dud of the umpire deciding to ignore Max getting taken high in the first?

Stinger is right, I missed the start of the game but saw a replay of that incident, and it was obviously a mistake by the umpires, as they are human...

From when I did start watching the umpiring was fine, and I saw us receive multiple shots at goal from free kicks.

Also yourself and the rest getting all hot under the collar about the last free and goal to Freo is exactly why the umps can never win. That was 100% the correct decision according to the rules, but as you don't understand the rule you abuse the ump. Its a bad rule, not bad umpiring.

Actually I think you are incorrect.
The rule is perfectly fine - it's there to stop one player smashing a defenseless player into the turf and possibly causing head damage.
A perfectly reasonable rule that I've seen perfectly umpired on numerous occasions.
In the instance on Sunday night I believe the umpire thought that Hayes was going to smash the Freo player's head into the turf and blew the whistle.
He was wrong - it never happened and once again an incorrect decision was adjudicated because an umpire guessed instead if paying what he actually saw.

If you pin both arms, then dump/slam/sling the player, it’s a free regardless of if they injure themselves or not. They punish the action (in this case) and not the outcome.

Only a few years ago it was a perfect tackle, though for at least the last 2 seasons it is no longer.

[The_Dud]

Imagine coming home from the west complaining that the free count was 24-27

As a StKilda supporter your right given we are generally 10 down. In saying that if the umpiring was non biased we would have won by 7 goals.

And if yourself and Stinger were non biased we wouldn't have multiple umpiring threads every single week.

What did you think Dud of the umpire deciding to ignore Max getting taken high in the first?

Stinger is right, I missed the start of the game but saw a replay of that incident, and it was obviously a mistake by the umpires, as they are human...

From when I did start watching the umpiring was fine, and I saw us receive multiple shots at goal from free kicks.

Also yourself and the rest getting all hot under the collar about the last free and goal to Freo is exactly why the umps can never win. That was 100% the correct decision according to the rules, but as you don't understand the rule you abuse the ump. Its a bad rule, not bad umpiring.

So what your saying is that a umpire in full sight missed the most obvious free but then pulled a speculative free to gift them a goal. Thats what you said right?

How can any of us speculate on what kind of sight he had on the play?

Umpires make mistakes across every sport in the world, why do you expect AFL umpires to be perfect?

[Waltzing St Kilda]

Frees in front of goal at crucial times of a game should only be paid if they're clear and indisputable.

[B.M]

The same applies for ALL frees