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Jack Hayes

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Another mature age SA player training with the Saints

25yo
192cm
91kg

Midfielder

Averaged 20 disposals and a goal per game last season

SA Captain and Jack Oatey medal for BOG in the SANFL gf


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Yeah, looks OK. Mentioned in the SSP train with thread, complete with links.


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Is there a contractual obligation for us to draft a 192cm South Australian every draft?


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Banger9798 wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 1:32pm Is there a contractual obligation for us to draft a 192cm South Australian every draft?
Did we do that last year?


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CQ SAINT wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 2:54pm
Banger9798 wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 1:32pm Is there a contractual obligation for us to draft a 192cm South Australian every draft?
Did we do that last year?
Tom Highmore.


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193 Wilkie & Sharman
191 Highmore

Seem Hayes will be a point of difference at 192 😉


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Gershwin wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 4:51pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 2:54pm
Banger9798 wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 1:32pm Is there a contractual obligation for us to draft a 192cm South Australian every draft?
Did we do that last year?
Tom Highmore.
Highmore is from the ACT.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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Related to Lenny the legend footballer or Colin the legend trainer?


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CQ SAINT wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 7:12pm
Gershwin wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 4:51pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 2:54pm
Banger9798 wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 1:32pm Is there a contractual obligation for us to draft a 192cm South Australian every draft?
Did we do that last year?
Tom Highmore.
Highmore is from the ACT.
Well Sharman is not a South Australian either.

But all three were drafted from a SA Club.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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saintsRrising wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 8:43pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 7:12pm
Gershwin wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 4:51pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 2:54pm
Banger9798 wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 1:32pm Is there a contractual obligation for us to draft a 192cm South Australian every draft?
Did we do that last year?
Tom Highmore.
Highmore is from the ACT.
Well Sharman is not a South Australian either.

But all three were drafted from a SA Club.
Sinclair, Marshall, Wilkie, Highmore and Sharman were all overlooked at their drafts.
I have no doubt they come from a big list of potential rookies and second, third and fourth chance draftees we have followed and have so far proven to be very smart choices.
Hayes looks to be another example and he is now 194 cm and a very likely prospect.
I wouldn't mind betting he will turn out to a bargain, should we decide to take him with a supplementary spot. He becomes eligible in a few weeks and in my opinion, its a no brainer.


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Yorkeys wrote: Tue 21 Dec 2021 8:06pm Related to Lenny the legend footballer or Colin the legend trainer?
Get him. CS would be a great nickname.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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As far as I can tell it is pretty much a risk free bet. It costs us one of two spots so we still have a spare for mid season draft if required and this is before we factor in some unexpected action/injury that frees up another spot. I guess the only concern is how good is he really?
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Way to go!

If he is judged to be good enough, at 194cm, he will be a real point of difference for our midfield.


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sendmehomehappy wrote: Wed 22 Dec 2021 8:02pm Way to go!

If he is judged to be good enough, at 194cm, he will be a real point of difference for our midfield.
He has no where near AFL standard agility to allow him to play midfield. If he gets offerred a position on the list it will be in the McKernan role, as a big forward/pinch hit ruckman.


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Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 27 Dec 2021 3:38pm
sendmehomehappy wrote: Wed 22 Dec 2021 8:02pm Way to go!

If he is judged to be good enough, at 194cm, he will be a real point of difference for our midfield.
He has no where near AFL standard agility to allow him to play midfield. If he gets offerred a position on the list it will be in the McKernan role, as a big forward/pinch hit ruckman.
I agree, but I'd be looking for more of a Marshall type big bodied, marking and clearance winning 4th mid/2nd ruck.


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I watched most of the SA grand final and liked Hayes impact on the game.
He’s strong and does the little things that benefit his team.
A great mark and seems to have good endurance.
A strong bodied key defender maybe is where he can help us
Can pinch fit in the ruck but would likely struggle at AFL level in that role.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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just a quick question...
As Hayes is training with us does that mean we get first pick on him OR can another team swoop in and sign him once the date of signing has opened up?
Apologies if this is a silly question.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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Faulky63 wrote: Sun 16 Jan 2022 11:47am just a quick question...
As Hayes is training with us does that mean we get first pick on him OR can another team swoop in and sign him once the date of signing has opened up?
Apologies if this is a silly question.
I’m pretty sure he can sign with any club that has room on their list.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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Gershwin wrote: Sun 16 Jan 2022 12:30pm
Faulky63 wrote: Sun 16 Jan 2022 11:47am just a quick question...
As Hayes is training with us does that mean we get first pick on him OR can another team swoop in and sign him once the date of signing has opened up?
Apologies if this is a silly question.
I’m pretty sure he can sign with any club that has room on their list.
Yeah. That’s correct.
We get no preferential treatment in signing him up. Anyone can swoop in at any time.
That being said, we could also tell him at any time that his services are not required. He does get paid for his time training though. Like a casual employee.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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Well, if we haven't already, all clubs could now snap him up, as of back on the 10th up until the 9th of March.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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CQ SAINT wrote: Tue 18 Jan 2022 10:31am Well, if we haven't already, all clubs could now snap him up, as of back on the 10th up until the 9th of March.
If another club approached him, you would think he would pay us the courtesy of giving us a chance to make him an offer. Gives him some bargaining power. But I suspect it is only us interested in him.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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Gershwin wrote: Tue 18 Jan 2022 5:51pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Tue 18 Jan 2022 10:31am Well, if we haven't already, all clubs could now snap him up, as of back on the 10th up until the 9th of March.
If another club approached him, you would think he would pay us the courtesy of giving us a chance to make him an offer. Gives him some bargaining power. But I suspect it is only us interested in him.
Agree. I am not sure how many other clubs have spots let alone two and want to try their luck on an untested utility (afl level) that you haven’t trained with personally. Most likely we will get him but not sure where he will play. Seems good at various places but not great in any of them


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Re: Jack Hayes

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DJ Higgins wrote: Wed 19 Jan 2022 12:04pm
Gershwin wrote: Tue 18 Jan 2022 5:51pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Tue 18 Jan 2022 10:31am Well, if we haven't already, all clubs could now snap him up, as of back on the 10th up until the 9th of March.
If another club approached him, you would think he would pay us the courtesy of giving us a chance to make him an offer. Gives him some bargaining power. But I suspect it is only us interested in him.
Agree. I am not sure how many other clubs have spots let alone two and want to try their luck on an untested utility (afl level) that you haven’t trained with personally. Most likely we will get him but not sure where he will play. Seems good at various places but not great in any of them

Back up . if he was really good, he would have been picked up in the draft.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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"depth utilities" will win a premiership this year.

Unless injured, we will use the whole list, first year players (even deep selections) will play multiple games. Topping up the bottom 6 is as important as topping up the top 6 right now.

Such is the nature of our game at the moment.


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Re: Jack Hayes

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saintly wrote: Wed 19 Jan 2022 2:18pm
DJ Higgins wrote: Wed 19 Jan 2022 12:04pm
Gershwin wrote: Tue 18 Jan 2022 5:51pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Tue 18 Jan 2022 10:31am Well, if we haven't already, all clubs could now snap him up, as of back on the 10th up until the 9th of March.
If another club approached him, you would think he would pay us the courtesy of giving us a chance to make him an offer. Gives him some bargaining power. But I suspect it is only us interested in him.
Agree. I am not sure how many other clubs have spots let alone two and want to try their luck on an untested utility (afl level) that you haven’t trained with personally. Most likely we will get him but not sure where he will play. Seems good at various places but not great in any of them

Back up . if he was really good, he would have been picked up in the draft.
Not sure if your ‘meat n potatoes’ response is tongue in cheek given recent examples of non drafted players playing success ?


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