2021 NGA Players Level 1 & 2

[saynta]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... d268670fd4

Some interesting names in there.

[saynta]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/663026/freo ... draft-pool

[Impatient Sainter]

See both Owens & Windhager have been named to attend the 2021 NAB AFL DRAFT COMBINE.

[Saints58]

So how does it work with the NGA boys do we have to put a bid on them with pick?
I dont wont to give up to much for the kids.

[ace]

I want this guy.
Mac Andrew
He is 200cm but he moves so smoothly.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/655053/dra ... 7588800001
With Daicos and Darcy falling to father-son queue jumping the Saints will have pick 11.
He is a Melbourne NGA player but if the Saints take him in the top 20 Melbourne can't do a thing.

South Sudanese heritage but parents fled with him to Egypt before South Sudan got freedom from Sudan.
Now aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mac ... 57l6v.html

[CQ SAINT]

I want this guy.
Mac Andrew
He is 200cm but he moves so smoothly.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/655053/dra ... 7588800001
With Daicos and Darcy falling to father-son queue jumping the Saints will have pick 11.
He is a Melbourne NGA player but if the Saints take him in the top 20 Melbourne can't do a thing.

South Sudanese heritage but parents fled with him to Egypt before South Sudan got freedom from Sudan.
Now aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mac ... 57l6v.html

Would be a great pick up but I reckon with Heath up our sleeves the 1st pick should go to the best available balanced mid with speed.

[saynta]

I want this guy.
Mac Andrew
He is 200cm but he moves so smoothly.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/655053/dra ... 7588800001
With Daicos and Darcy falling to father-son queue jumping the Saints will have pick 11.
He is a Melbourne NGA player but if the Saints take him in the top 20 Melbourne can't do a thing.

South Sudanese heritage but parents fled with him to Egypt before South Sudan got freedom from Sudan.
Now aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mac ... 57l6v.html

8. Mac Andrew (Dandenong Stingrays)

The Melbourne Next Generation Academy prospect has probably been the biggest bolter across the season. He would have to put on size and ultimately be a long-term prospect for any club that picked him up, but his athleticism and ability to play across all thirds of the ground at 200cm excites AFL clubs. Excluding his NAB League match where he got injured, Andrew averaged 15.2 disposals from his five games – the most of any ruckman – according to Champion Data. His hit-out-to-advantage rate of 18.1 per cent was also ranked fourth among the NAB League’s top 50 ruckmen for ruck contests. The AFL has changed the in-draft NGA bidding rules for 2021, with clubs with existing links to multicultural and Indigenous Academy players unable to match bids inside the top 20 selections. While Andrew is raw, recruiters believe there’s “no chance” he’s slipping outside of the top 20, especially after his performance in a Vic Metro trial game at Windy Hill earlier this year. It means the Dees are almost certain to miss out on him.

[Gershwin]

I want this guy.
Mac Andrew
He is 200cm but he moves so smoothly.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/655053/dra ... 7588800001
With Daicos and Darcy falling to father-son queue jumping the Saints will have pick 11.
He is a Melbourne NGA player but if the Saints take him in the top 20 Melbourne can't do a thing.

South Sudanese heritage but parents fled with him to Egypt before South Sudan got freedom from Sudan.
Now aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mac ... 57l6v.html

8. Mac Andrew (Dandenong Stingrays)

The Melbourne Next Generation Academy prospect has probably been the biggest bolter across the season. He would have to put on size and ultimately be a long-term prospect for any club that picked him up, but his athleticism and ability to play across all thirds of the ground at 200cm excites AFL clubs. Excluding his NAB League match where he got injured, Andrew averaged 15.2 disposals from his five games – the most of any ruckman – according to Champion Data. His hit-out-to-advantage rate of 18.1 per cent was also ranked fourth among the NAB League’s top 50 ruckmen for ruck contests. The AFL has changed the in-draft NGA bidding rules for 2021, with clubs with existing links to multicultural and Indigenous Academy players unable to match bids inside the top 20 selections. While Andrew is raw, recruiters believe there’s “no chance” he’s slipping outside of the top 20, especially after his performance in a Vic Metro trial game at Windy Hill earlier this year. It means the Dees are almost certain to miss out on him.

We should definitely take him if he is available at pick 11.

[Impatient Sainter]

We desparately need elite midfielders more than a long term ruckman/forward. I very much doubt Andrew will be on our recruiter's radars.

[MC Gusto]

So how does it work with the NGA boys do we have to put a bid on them with pick?
I dont wont to give up to much for the kids.

So long as they don’t go too 20 we just have to bid

If they go top 20 then bad luck unless it’s us. New rule to skunk the saints after doggies hit jamar last year!

Lady Luck doesn’t follow the saints tho.

In fairness I think only Windhager is a top 20 chance prob more 20-40

Fingers crossed

[Impatient Sainter]

Trade Radio:

If Mitchito Owens, who is a St Kilda academy player gets selected inside the top 20 - they won't be able to match a bid on him...A lot of the clubs I've spoken to like him in the 15-20 range." - Riley Beveridge

Surely Finnis & Lethlean are lobbying the AFL to allow the clubs who havent had a 1st round NGA to bid on one until each club has the same opportunity.

The below has been put together by hangdog on BF -

NGA's acquired by club

6 - Fremantle
4 - Port Adelaide
3 - Collingwood, Essendon, Hawthorn (1 unmatched), West Coast, Western Bulldogs
2 - Adelaide, North Melbourne
1 - Geelong, Melbourne, Richmond
0 - Carlton, St Kilda (1 unmatched)

Draft Points value of NGA's gained

3000 - Western Bulldogs
2027 - Collingwood
1962 - Fremantle
1551 - North Melbourne
1067 - Port Adelaide
679 - Essendon
522 - Hawthorn
446 - West Coast
0 - Adelaide
0 - Geelong
0 - Melbourne
0 - Richmond
0 - St Kilda

[Wayne42]

Bad luck for the Saints if any of their NGA's go top 20.

[saintsRrising]

, St Kilda (1 unmatched)

Who was that?

Biggy was in our NGA, but he went to the Tigers.

So which NGA player did we actually draft?

[CQ SAINT]

, St Kilda (1 unmatched)

Who was that?

Biggy was in our NGA, but he went to the Tigers.

So which NGA player did we actually draft?

He is talking about Biggy. Richmond bid on him, we didnt match it.

[Impatient Sainter]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/682571/cal- ... er-ranking

[Impatient Sainter]

The Herald Sun just released their Top 30 and neither Windhager nor Owens rate a mention, hopefully it remains that way come draft night.

[Impatient Sainter]

The Herald Sun just released their Top 30 and neither Windhager nor Owens rate a mention, hopefully it remains that way come draft night.

[Impatient Sainter]

Herald Sun list -

1.Jason Horne-Francis
2. Nick Daicos
3. Sam Darcy
4. Finn Callaghan
5.Josh Gibcus
6. Ben Hobbs
7. Josh Ward
8. Mac Andrew
9. Jye Amiss
10. Josh Sinn
11. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
12. Matthew Roberts
13. Josh Rachele
14. Tyler Sonsie
15. Arlo Draper
16. Neil Erasmus
17. Josh Goater
18. Matthew Johnson
19.Campbell Chesser
20. Jacob van Rooyen
21.Sam Butler
22.Darcy Wilmot
23. Jack Williams
24. Jesse Motlop
25. Zac Taylor
26. Blake Howes
27. Toby Conway
28. Jase Burgoyne
29. Mitch Knevitt
30.Tom Brown

[ace]

How does the drafting go with the NGA players do we need to match a offer from a rival club or do we get preference

As long as they are not bid on inside the top 20 (this year), if we chose to we can match the bid. 2 years ago Bigoa Nyuon was a Saints NGA player who Richmond bid on at 54 and we chose not to match. He has yet to play an AFL game and did his ACL this year.

Richmond's bid fell a couple of places early.
St Kilda did not have enough points to trump Richmond.
Had he been picked a few places later St Kilda could have nabbed him.

[diddley]

How does the drafting go with the NGA players do we need to match a offer from a rival club or do we get preference

As long as they are not bid on inside the top 20 (this year), if we chose to we can match the bid. 2 years ago Bigoa Nyuon was a Saints NGA player who Richmond bid on at 54 and we chose not to match. He has yet to play an AFL game and did his ACL this year.

Richmond's bid fell a couple of places early.
St Kilda did not have enough points to trump Richmond.
Had he been picked a few places later St Kilda could have nabbed him.

I would have thought that the points difference would have been negligible, and if needed could have gone into deficit on the third round the year after. It could have been done, with minimal impact to either draft hand. I think (absolutely pure guess work here, not an ITK) they just chose to not pick him.

[MC Gusto]

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/ ... lose-draft

Pick 11

[realdeal]

How does the drafting go with the NGA players do we need to match a offer from a rival club or do we get preference

As long as they are not bid on inside the top 20 (this year), if we chose to we can match the bid. 2 years ago Bigoa Nyuon was a Saints NGA player who Richmond bid on at 54 and we chose not to match. He has yet to play an AFL game and did his ACL this year.

Richmond's bid fell a couple of places early.
St Kilda did not have enough points to trump Richmond.
Had he been picked a few places later St Kilda could have nabbed him.

I would have thought that the points difference would have been negligible, and if needed could have gone into deficit on the third round the year after. It could have been done, with minimal impact to either draft hand. I think (absolutely pure guess work here, not an ITK) they just chose to not pick him.

Correct, we chose not to pick him.

We selected Ryan Brynes at pick 52, Nyuon was selected by Richmond at pick 54.

We obviously rated Brynes higher, so far so good..

[diddley]

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/ ... lose-draft

Pick 11

It’s the power rankings, not a mock draft. It actually says he is projected to be drafted between 10-20.
The top 30-odd players (outside of the top 4) this year seem to be all over the place in most predictions. No one is getting a good read on it. We are just gonna have to wait.
The only thing we have got going for ourselves for these NGA kids, is that they didn’t get a bunch of exposure this year, so everyone is just speculating on them. Especially Owens. He came out of nowhere with 2 good games.

[Gershwin]

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/ ... lose-draft

Pick 11

It’s the power rankings, not a mock draft. It actually says he is projected to be drafted between 10-20.
The top 30-odd players (outside of the top 4) this year seem to be all over the place in most predictions. No one is getting a good read on it. We are just gonna have to wait.
The only thing we have got going for ourselves for these NGA kids, is that they didn’t get a bunch of exposure this year, so everyone is just speculating on them. Especially Owens. He came out of nowhere with 2 good games.

Makes you wonder whether we should draft Windhager at 11 ?
At least our recruiters will know him better than any others and should be able to make an informed decision.

[diddley]

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/ ... lose-draft

Pick 11

It’s the power rankings, not a mock draft. It actually says he is projected to be drafted between 10-20.
The top 30-odd players (outside of the top 4) this year seem to be all over the place in most predictions. No one is getting a good read on it. We are just gonna have to wait.
The only thing we have got going for ourselves for these NGA kids, is that they didn’t get a bunch of exposure this year, so everyone is just speculating on them. Especially Owens. He came out of nowhere with 2 good games.

Makes you wonder whether we should draft Windhager at 11 ?
At least our recruiters will know him better than any others and should be able to make an informed decision.

I see your thinking, but I don’t agree. I would only take him at 11 if we think he is the best available at that pick.
The other things is the article is referring to Owens at 11, not Windhager. By this articles reasoning, we could grab Windhager outside of the 20 for sure.