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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

Post: # 1926833Post Wayne42 »

Impatient Sainter wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 10:27am A couple of interesting players who we should ask questions regarding -

22 yo Nathan Kreuger 196cm key defender at Geelong
22 yo Sam Hayes 205cm ruckman at Port Adelaide (originally from Ferntree Gully)

Both struggled for opportunity at their respective clubs.
Yes, the Saints should inquire about both of those players.

Hayes is an interesting one, Port won't play him but haven't wanted to trade him when others have inquired.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

Post: # 1926853Post Impatient Sainter »

Just to add more interest to the trade period Richmond are going to be rolling in draft picks this year after both Chol & CCJ depart.

They already have 2 firsts and 2 seconds and will likely get another couple of early 2nds for Chol and CCJ.

It may give them room to go after Cerra, but I doubt they'd want to take all the picks to the draft?


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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I doubt either Chol or CCJ are going to be bringing in high 2nd rounders.
They are free agents so it will be based on Salary neither is going to be commanding high salaries so the best the Tigers will get is 3rd rounders.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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SinCitySainter wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 4:01pm I doubt either Chol or CCJ are going to be bringing in high 2nd rounders.
They are free agents so it will be based on Salary neither is going to be commanding high salaries so the best the Tigers will get is 3rd rounders.
Is CCJ a free agent? Uncontracted. yes.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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saynta wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 4:23pm
SinCitySainter wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 4:01pm I doubt either Chol or CCJ are going to be bringing in high 2nd rounders.
They are free agents so it will be based on Salary neither is going to be commanding high salaries so the best the Tigers will get is 3rd rounders.
Is CCJ a free agent? Uncontracted. yes.
Nope. Not a free agent.
He is a developing tall that they drafted in the first round. He will not be let go for nothing, unless he really is a dud.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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OK, I stand corrected on him but I still doubt they will get a lot for him. Where they drafted him 4 years ago is not relevant.
He has been in the system 4 years and played 9 games.
Richmond were a good side through three of those 4 years but in those three years he played once.
Chol is a reasonable back up player but not a first line ruck or defender, no one is paying a lot for a fill in player.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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How strong is the rumour that we are into Mason Cox for next season
Both Kruger and Hayes sound like great prospects how about Leek Aleer a KPB form Central districts in SANFL or Mc Been He got cut from a AFL club a few years ago not sure who though KPF from Glenelg also in the SANFL both are doing really well and we like more mature age recruits.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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No thanks re Cox. A failure. We should have a policy of no filth rejects FFS.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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Like to get one of these talls in the draft, but they'll be gone before we have a pick, especially if we go for a HBF with our first pick.

7. Josh Gibcus (GWV Rebels)

Think Jake Lever. The quintessential modern-day defender at 195cm, recruiters can see Gibcus becoming a genuine second backman at AFL club land that can play man-on-man but also intercept.
He was ranked first among defenders who played at least five NAB League matches this season for intercept possessions (7.9) and intercept marks (3.2). Although he defended just eight one-on-one
contests from his 10 NAB League matches, so it’ll be fascinating to see how he develops in that area at AFL level. Still, recruiters say he has a “ridiculous” vertical leap, while he also has strong aerobic
capacity and good footy nous.

10. Jye Amiss (East Perth)

Arguably the best key forward in the open draft at 195cm. Amiss kicked a WAFL colts season-high 51 goals this season — the most by a player in that competition since 2015. Just as impressively, he
only kicked 14 behinds, proving he’s a dead-eye in front of goal in an AFL era where there aren’t a lot of accurate shooters. Amiss also ranked second in the WAFL colts for contested marks (3.0) and
No. 1 for marks inside 50 (3.5), yet also has good athleticism below his knees. He’d be perfect for Essendon at Pick 11, but he might be off the board by then, especially if the Dockers want to fill
their key forward chasm — with a local WA lad — via the draft.


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saynta wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 6:42pm No thanks re Cox. A failure. We should have a policy of no filth rejects FFS.
Yes, the only way I'd take Cox off their hands is if they threw De Goey in.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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SinCitySainter wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 5:57pm OK, I stand corrected on him but I still doubt they will get a lot for him. Where they drafted him 4 years ago is not relevant.
First, if Chol is out the door, CCJ is more likely to stay as there is now less tall depth in their squad.
Second, yes, where they drafted him 4 years ago is still relevant. They will have seen him as an investment back then, and the work they put into him over the 4 years will now start paying off in their plans. So anything less than what they paid would be a loss in investment. Unless, like I said before, he is a dud and they know it, and trying to offload him.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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diddley wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 11:01pm
SinCitySainter wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 5:57pm OK, I stand corrected on him but I still doubt they will get a lot for him. Where they drafted him 4 years ago is not relevant.
First, if Chol is out the door, CCJ is more likely to stay as there is now less tall depth in their squad.
Second, yes, where they drafted him 4 years ago is still relevant. They will have seen him as an investment back then, and the work they put into him over the 4 years will now start paying off in their plans. So anything less than what they paid would be a loss in investment. Unless, like I said before, he is a dud and they know it, and trying to offload him.
Both gone according to Jack on 360 tonight .


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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saynta wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 11:10pm
diddley wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 11:01pm
SinCitySainter wrote: Thu 16 Sep 2021 5:57pm OK, I stand corrected on him but I still doubt they will get a lot for him. Where they drafted him 4 years ago is not relevant.
First, if Chol is out the door, CCJ is more likely to stay as there is now less tall depth in their squad.
Second, yes, where they drafted him 4 years ago is still relevant. They will have seen him as an investment back then, and the work they put into him over the 4 years will now start paying off in their plans. So anything less than what they paid would be a loss in investment. Unless, like I said before, he is a dud and they know it, and trying to offload him.
Both gone according to Jack on 360 tonight .
Righto. Shows how much I know.
Watch him get traded for a bag of chips now.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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From the herald sun.com.au

"Quinton Narkle will stay at the Cats given there are no suitors, while Charlie Constable is keen to get more chances but can’t find another home either."


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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saynta wrote: Fri 17 Sep 2021 6:47pm From the herald sun.com.au

"Quinton Narkle will stay at the Cats given there are no suitors, while Charlie Constable is keen to get more chances but can’t find another home either."
It’s a bad time to be a fringe inside midfielder.


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saynta wrote: Fri 17 Sep 2021 6:47pm From the herald sun.com.au

"Quinton Narkle will stay at the Cats given there are no suitors, while Charlie Constable is keen to get more chances but can’t find another home either."
I hate trades.
We fleece rarely.
We get fleeced commonly.
I think we wrecked the Hawks.
But everyone from Cats, Crows to Freo ate our brunch, lunch, dinner and shagged our missus.

Trying a trade on with Cats, they'd walk away with our 1st round pick for 2021,2022, 2023 and get 25% of ticket sales plus the profits from 3 one armed bandits in the despicable Moorabbin Social.

So yeah...we will definitely go a trade with Cats. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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I wonder if Dunstan will find a new home. He comes cheap too.


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VETERAN defender Robbie Tarrant is weighing up whether to re-sign at North Melbourne or accept a two-year deal from Richmond.

As an unrestricted free agent, Tarrant would be free to walk to the Tigers from October 1.

It appears they would prefer Tarrant over Talia as only one of them as a contract offer.

Lots of clubs are trying to fill KPD positions, i wish we knew what the Saints were doing in that space.


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CARLTON has landed Brian Cook as its new chief executive.

In a massive coup for the Blues, Cook has agreed to join the club after a glittering 32-year career leading Geelong and West Coast.

The outgoing Cats boss and the League's longest-serving chief executive informed Geelong of his decision on Friday.


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Re: Trade-Draft 2021 Discussion

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Saints showing interest in Krueger from Geelong, I wonder if Enright has any influence on his decision.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tar ... 58st3.html


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Impatient Sainter wrote: Sat 18 Sep 2021 8:20pm Saints showing interest in Krueger from Geelong, I wonder if Enright has any influence on his decision.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tar ... 58st3.html
A forward, recently turned defender with a debut this year, you could safely bet Enright has had some influence on him but its reported, he has been working close with Matthew Scarlett..
From his limited highlights, he looks quick, agile and closes fast on a marking contest to spoil.
Physically he looks similar to Howard and appears to play a similar game, maybe slightly closer checking on his opponents and less skilled in overhead marking.
Would be a good addition to the list at the right price.


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AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL Grand Final
Saturday September 25 (we hope!)

Draft Combine
tbc (Week after the Grand Final, approx. September 27 – October 1)

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

AFL Trade Period (Players and Picks)
Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

AFL Trade Period (Picks only)
Monday October 4 – ? (approx. Friday November 19)

National Draft
Wednesday November 24 (Round 1)
Thursday November 25 (Round 2 through to conclusion)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26

Final List Lodgement
tbc (Mid-December)

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
tbc


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According to HS -

Port Adelaide ruck-forward Peter Ladhams will explore his options ahead of the trade period as the Power attempt to change their forward mix after their finals failure.


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MIDFIELDER Quinton Narkle has signed a one-year deal to remain with Geelong.
The 23-year-old had been exploring the market for further security but has settled on the Cats for 2022.
Narkle has battled knee issues over his career but managed a career-high 16 games in 2201, inclusive of seven as the Cats' starting medical sub.


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