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Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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Congratulations Jack Steele on being officially Saintsational's Player of the Year 2021!
The Eastern Memorial trophy is currently waiting printing (have to wait until after lockdown)!
We will try and get it to you ASAP.


The top five is rounded out with:
Brad Crouch
Luke Dunstan
Rowan Marshall
Jack Sinclair
Player12345678910111213151617181920212223Total
Jack Steele45543542.545435551554583.5
Brad Crouch30.5353454330.5
Luke Dunstan5253419
Rowan Marshall15324318
Jack Sinclair23511517
Zak Jones52431217
Jack Billings331.544116.5
Hunter Clark4532115
Brad Hill41412214
Dougal Howard5212212
Tim Membrey54312
Paddy Ryder12.5214111.5
Max King25411
Sebastian Ross12429
Callum Wilkie21328
Jack Higgins3238
Jimmy Webster21115
Cooper Sharman44
Nick Coffield314
Ryan Byrnes44
Dan Butler33
Jade Gresham213
Tom Highmore33
Jake Carlisle1.51.5
Josh Battle0.50.5
Player12345678910111213151617181920212223BehindsTotal
Max King215121112223164223038
Tim Membrey311212222222132332634
Jack Higgins21312141111114121627
Dan Butler1313111111221718
Jack Billings11222121111414
Jack Steele311211211813
Cooper Sharman2224410
Rowan Marshall12121259
Mason Wood312127
Brad Crouch11111257
Ryan Byrnes121216
Daniel McKenzie121105
Paddy Ryder121115
Dean Kent3265
Sebastian Ross211185
Zak Jones21124
Jack Lonie2264
Bradley Hill11113
Jack Sinclair11123
Josh Battle11173
Paul Hunter1102
Hunter Clark212
Jack Bytel212
Shaun McKernan1112
Ben Long1192
Jade Gresham101
Jimmy Webster101
Jarryn Geary111
Leo Connolly111
Nick Coffield111
Jake Carlisle121
Luke Dunstan141
Callum Wilkie10
Dougal Howard10
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Re: Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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Our Past Winners are:

2008: Nick Riewoldt
2009: Lenny Hayes
2010: Lenny Hayes and Brendon Goddard
2011: Nick Dal Santo
2012: Lenny Hayes
2013: Leigh Montagna
2014: Lenny Hayes
2015: Jack Steven
2016: Jack Steven
2017: Seb Ross
2018: Jack Steven
2019: Rowan Marshall
2020: Jack Steele
2021: Jack Steele
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Re: Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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Voting is Mandatory - lol!


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Re: Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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Sainter Dad,
Absolutely love your work on this.
but you've got Sebastian Ross listed twice in the goalkickers.
Thanks for your indispensable service to Saintsational.


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avid wrote: Tue 11 May 2021 12:57am Sainter Dad,
Absolutely love your work on this.
but you've got Sebastian Ross listed twice in the goalkickers.
Thanks for your indispensable service to Saintsational.
Sorted - thanks


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Re: Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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With 6 rounds left to go so 30 points maximum available - Jack Steele is the winner.


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Re: Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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ace wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 5:49pm With 6 rounds left to go so 30 points maximum available - Jack Steele is the winner.
LOL - Not decided if we make Finals - So Jack Steele is the winner - lol


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Re: Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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Hey Sainter Dad.
Do you keep records of how the voting finished each year?

I went searching but you posted them as pictures and they no longer exist or the links don’t work.


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kosifantutti wrote: Thu 12 Aug 2021 2:40pm Hey Sainter Dad.
Do you keep records of how the voting finished each year?

I went searching but you posted them as pictures and they no longer exist or the links don’t work.
Kosi - lol - I do not think so - I will search some backups - but I do not think I can help

What are you trying to ascertain?


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Re: Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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Sainter_Dad wrote: Thu 19 Aug 2021 8:37am
kosifantutti wrote: Thu 12 Aug 2021 2:40pm Hey Sainter Dad.
Do you keep records of how the voting finished each year?

I went searching but you posted them as pictures and they no longer exist or the links don’t work.
Kosi - lol - I do not think so - I will search some backups - but I do not think I can help

What are you trying to ascertain?
Some people make claims that player X was really good in 2018 but all we can verify it with is a top 10 in the B&F. I’d like to go to a higher authority.


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Kosi - it is a bit hard to help Year by Year - but these are the total numbers of Votes received by each player across the years 2013 - 2021 (to date)

330 is the total votes per year - except for last year when we did not vote for Round 1 - So 16 Rounds and 2 finals - 270 votes

I hope it gives you an indication of growth / decline each year.
Player/Year201320142015201620172018201920202021
Acres184.53.56
Armitage32.5285620.510
Austin1
Battle411.530.5
Billings124923.52035.512.516.5
Blake3
Brown42.5
Bruce320.53622
Butler17.53
Byrnes4
Bytel4
Carlisle292681.5
Clark22.52015
Coffield0.5144
Crouch30.5
Curren2
Dal Santo20
Delaney6
Dempster52116.58
Dunstan12172517.519
Fisher6112.5
Geary20.50.5897.533
Gilbert6474132
Gresham4102718.55.53
Gwilt3.55
Hannebery124
Hayes1454
Hickey4.543264
Higgins8
Highmore3
Hill714
Hind74
Howard11.512
Jones (C)215
Jones (Z)1917
Kent4
King11
Lee20.5
Long55
Longer396
Lonie766
Marshall5.5482718
McEvoy13.5
Membrey17.55517412
Milne3
Minchington1
Montagna5814.53516.56
Newnes4.51219147.525
Parker3.5
Paton25
Phillips21.5
Pierce2
Ray1015
Riewoldt42461843.511
Rice3
Roberton1330.511362
Ross66.54459.534.52239
Ryder1911.5
Saunders1.5
Savage151488.5314
Schneider4.5
Sharman4
Shenton10
Sinclair314.5111217
Stanley0.512
Steele1727.53960.583.5
Steven56195747.527578.5
Stevens6
Webster0.51331.55
Weller101117.5
Wilkie4.5108
Wright1
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Re: Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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Far out, Jack Steele's last two years are a standout.


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SaintJohno wrote: Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:42am Far out, Jack Steele's last two years are a standout.
LOL - ya think?

He has achieved on average 71.28% of the Maximum votes each week - or 3.56 votes each week for the last 2 years.

Not saying anything about a guy who averages 10% or 1/2 a vote a game for the same period


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Re: Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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Sainter_Dad wrote: Fri 20 Aug 2021 11:24am
SaintJohno wrote: Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:42am Far out, Jack Steele's last two years are a standout.
LOL - ya think?

He has achieved on average 71.28% of the Maximum votes each week - or 3.56 votes each week for the last 2 years.

Not saying anything about a guy who averages 10% or 1/2 a vote a game for the same period
Ha! I do like a man who's into his stats.


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Re: Eastern Memorial Saintsational Player of the Year 2021

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And if by some cruel twist we somehow still had Cho coaching, maybe Mr 10% would have been appointed to the captaincy… instead of Steele

Thankfully Ratts and co made sure that the right person was appointed


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Incredible effort from Dunstan... finishes third from about 1/3 of the season worth of games


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Thu 19 Aug 2021 10:18pm Kosi - it is a bit hard to help Year by Year - but these are the total numbers of Votes received by each player across the years 2013 - 2021 (to date)

330 is the total votes per year - except for last year when we did not vote for Round 1 - So 16 Rounds and 2 finals - 270 votes

I hope it gives you an indication of growth / decline each year.
Player/Year201320142015201620172018201920202021
Acres184.53.56
Armitage32.5285620.510
Battle11.530.5
Billings124923.52435.512.516.5
Blake34
Brown62.5
Bruce320.53522
Butler17.53
Byrnes4
Bytel4
Carlisle292681.5
Clark22.52015
Coffield1.5144
Crouch30.5
Curren2
Dal Santo20
Delaney6
Dempster52116.58
Dunstan12172417.519
Fisher6112.5
Geary20.50.5897.533
Gilbert6474132
Gresham4103118.55.53
Gwilt3.55
Hannebery124
Hayes1454
Hickey4.543262
Higgins8
Highmore3
Hill714
Hind74
Howard11.512
Jones (C)215
Jones (Z)1915
Kent4
King11
Lee20.5
Long55
Longer396
Lonie766
Marshall7.5482715
McEvoy13.5
Membrey17.5517412
Milne3
Minchington1
Montagna5814.53516.56
Newnes4.51219147.545
Parker0.53.5
Paton25
Phillips21.5
Pierce2
Ray1015
Riewoldt42461843.511
Roberton1330.511362
Ross66.54459.5322239
Ryder1911.5
Saunders1.5
Savage151488.5314
Schneider4.5
Shenton10
Sinclair314.551217
Stanley0.512
Steele1735.53960.578.5
Steven56195747.527608.5
Stevens6
Webster0.51326.54
Weller101117.5
Wilkie4.5108
Wright1
Thanks SD
If a player does not appear there eg DMAC, I assume they were never in the top 5 for the week.

And thanks for another tremendous effort in running this.


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Hey Kosi - you are technically correct - the best kind of correct.

I have only tabulated the final votes as you can draw no relevant info from the raw data due to after a win we might have 50 people vote - after a loss 10.

Additionally in 2013 there were FAR more people voting than 2021.

The only effective way of looking at total votes would be 22 to 1 with the most votes gained getting 22 - and down until there are no points awarded. However, this also gets skewed for the fact that people would cast silly votes etc. and if someone week in week out threw in a 1 vote for POT-00000000 then they could get between 1 and 17 for just that single vote - we saw that a lot with the "Longer/Hickey Conflict" of 2017.

So I made a executive decision to only include significant votes - and the best cut off was the top 5. Unfortunately - if you were consistently 6th you would be considered a pretty decent player - but not get a spot on this list


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In summary, Hickey was better than Longer.


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kosifantutti wrote: Tue 24 Aug 2021 1:12pm In summary, Hickey was better than Longer.
Can't confirm or deny - I have seen Longer play in Summary - but not Hickey


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Love the stats!!!

Would love to see Total Votes

Especially interested where Ross sits!!!


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B.M wrote: Mon 06 Sep 2021 4:45pm Love the stats!!!

Would love to see Total Votes

Especially interested where Ross sits!!!
Top 10 total votes are:
VotesPlayer
275Steven
230.5Steele
182Ross
160.5Riewoldt
147Armitage
137Billings
130Montagna
97.5Marshall
92.5Roberton
89.5Dunstan
However you can draw nothing from this as Hayes only got 68 votes (in two years) and you cannot summise that Ross is better than Hayes - and Riewoldt for example

Average votes per season recorded are probably more effective:
VotesPlayer
46.1Steele
39.28Steven
34Hayes
32.1Riewoldt
30.5Crouch
29.4Armitage
26Montagna
24.375Marshall
22.75Ross
20Dal Santo
However this is also misleading as it only includes the last season of Dal for example - who was coming to the end of his career in 2013 (having won the award in 2011) so would be higher than Ross if you considered previous years, and LenDog won it in 2009 and 2012 as well as tied for to with Goddard in 2010 - so would probably have a higher average.

These counts should also be taken with a grain of salt as in years where there is a clear winner - 2021 - Steele for example - people were not allocating 5 to anyone else whereas in a year with Hayes, Harvey, Roo, Goddard, Monty, Dal etc the votes would be shared more evenly


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I was lucky enough to be there today when SainterDad was able to present the trophy to Captain Jack in front of the entire team!!!


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Dis Believer wrote: Wed 16 Feb 2022 6:46pm I was lucky enough to be there today when SainterDad was able to present the trophy to Captain Jack in front of the entire team!!!
One of the few people to have seen the trophy IRL - maybe at some stage we can get a day that some more people can be present

Once photos have been sent - I will post them here though


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I would like to further sing the praises of Captain Jack - but I fear that I cannot even do justice to the man.

He is humble - see Harvey
He is driven - see Hayes
He has leadership - see Reiwoldt
He is loved by the players - see Geary (and I do not say this lightly - all players I spoke to yesterday looked to mentioned Steele in casual conversation)


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