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Re: Sack the Coach

Post: # 1713931Post Teflon »

Drake Huggins wrote:So let's ignore the facts and jntroduce more irrelevancies. Happy to call it a day on this because you have no idea as to argue properly. The facts of this thread relate to the events of 2011 to 2017. That makes you uncomfortable because it doesn't suit your spurious arguments. Give it a rest. Ring the Flathead. He probably has a job for you amongst those other Numpties Liberatore and Hughes. We're in good hands.
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Post: # 1713934Post WellardSaint »

Teflon wrote:
Drake Huggins wrote:So let's ignore the facts and jntroduce more irrelevancies. Happy to call it a day on this because you have no idea as to argue properly. The facts of this thread relate to the events of 2011 to 2017. That makes you uncomfortable because it doesn't suit your spurious arguments. Give it a rest. Ring the Flathead. He probably has a job for you amongst those other Numpties Liberatore and Hughes. We're in good hands.
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Post: # 1713935Post Shaggy »

I am bullish about this year. 13 to 14 wins. A go at the flag in next 3 years. Kids are developing well. 7 stand out. Bottom six as good as I have known it. Richo will be judged based on performance in next 3 years. The past is irrelevant because we have not been good enough.


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Post: # 1714014Post The_President »

Richo is in all sorts if we don't make the 8.


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Post: # 1714025Post KingSaint »

Shaggy wrote:I am bullish about this year. 13 to 14 wins. A go at the flag in next 3 years. Kids are developing well. 7 stand out. Bottom six as good as I have known it. Richo will be judged based on performance in next 3 years. The past is irrelevant because we have not been good enough.
Careful Shag...this post is far too positive...you'll be accused of struggling with reality and being a club suckhole. Better to be a miserable sod who thinks the coach is useless...the playing list is hopeless...the administration lacks vision.

For what it's worth...and at the risk of being subject to the same ridicule...I agree with you. I think the list runs deeper than at anytime I have known...not sure about our topend talent...but I am bullish about the season. This is my first year back in Melbourne since the 70s...so I plan on going to every game and enjoying the ride...good, bad or indifferent.

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KingSaint wrote:
Shaggy wrote:I am bullish about this year. 13 to 14 wins. A go at the flag in next 3 years. Kids are developing well. 7 stand out. Bottom six as good as I have known it. Richo will be judged based on performance in next 3 years. The past is irrelevant because we have not been good enough.
Careful Shag...this post is far too positive...you'll be accused of struggling with reality and being a club suckhole. Better to be a miserable sod who thinks the coach is useless...the playing list is hopeless...the administration lacks vision.

For what it's worth...and at the risk of being subject to the same ridicule...I agree with you. I think the list runs deeper than at anytime I have known...not sure about our topend talent...but I am bullish about the season. This is my first year back in Melbourne since the 70s...so I plan on going to every game and enjoying the ride...good, bad or indifferent.

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But anyway, I reckon the Saints will have a decent year and slip into the 8.


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KingSaint wrote:
Shaggy wrote:I am bullish about this year. 13 to 14 wins. A go at the flag in next 3 years. Kids are developing well. 7 stand out. Bottom six as good as I have known it. Richo will be judged based on performance in next 3 years. The past is irrelevant because we have not been good enough.
Careful Shag...this post is far too positive...you'll be accused of struggling with reality and being a club suckhole. Better to be a miserable sod who thinks the coach is useless...the playing list is hopeless...the administration lacks vision.

For what it's worth...and at the risk of being subject to the same ridicule...I agree with you. I think the list runs deeper than at anytime I have known...not sure about our topend talent...but I am bullish about the season. This is my first year back in Melbourne since the 70s...so I plan on going to every game and enjoying the ride...good, bad or indifferent.

Go you Sainters!!!
Go King! Sounds like you will have fun this year no matter what with that kind of attitude.


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Post: # 1714050Post Teflon »

The_President wrote:Richo is in all sorts if we don't make the 8.
correct

forget this 3 year rubbish - we struggle to make the 8 and hes in strife and so is recruiters

been in the wilderness for 7 years and counting...


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Post: # 1714053Post Con Gorozidis »

Trivia question:

How many coaches in AFL/VFL history have survived coaching their first 100 games without making a final?

Can anybody think of one?

I thought of KB but he only coached 88 games.

Peter Knights managed one finals appearance.
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Post: # 1714054Post satchmo »

Sack every coach. Sack'em retrospectively if you have to. Aint nuthin like a sackin!
Why do we even need the same coach every week, anyhow?


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Post: # 1714055Post Con Gorozidis »

satchmo wrote:Sack every coach. Sack'em retrospectively if you have to. Aint nuthin like a sackin!
Why do we even need the same coach every week, anyhow?
Good point.
Between 1970 and 2000 the Cats had 9 coaches. A coach every three years.

Then ... Eventually....Three flags in quick succession.

Only two coaches in the last 18 years.
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Post: # 1714058Post bigred »

The answers here are coming.

I mean if we have an average year in 2018 and really, have we seen anything to say otherwise, how can we keep giving up more and more years to what could just be another dead horse.

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Post: # 1714067Post dragit »

But do people really expect us to play finals this year with the current list?

There are at least 8 better lists playing this year, probably 12.

You can see why we were trying to throw the kitchen sink at a few stars last year, because the pressure is mounting on that 2020 vision and richo.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-13/s ... ad-to-2018

While I'm not completely sold on richo, I wouldn't be hinging his job on a finals appearance this year, I just hope we don't play middling top-ups all year at the expense of getting much needed experience into promising youth.


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Post: # 1714099Post desertsaint »

Well it's top four or bust this year. flag or bust next year.
But happy to forgive them if they can bag a flag by 2030.
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The vision is to ensure the club is "admired as a competition leader in recruiting, player development and coaching" by 2018.

The plan is to deliver Grand Final success before 2020 – which will be the Saints' second flag after their sole 1966 triumph – and ensure the club is in the top four by 2018."


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dragit wrote:But do people really expect us to play finals this year with the current list?

There are at least 8 better lists playing this year, probably 12.

You can see why we were trying to throw the kitchen sink at a few stars last year, because the pressure is mounting on that 2020 vision and richo.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-13/s ... ad-to-2018

While I'm not completely sold on richo, I wouldn't be hinging his job on a finals appearance this year, I just hope we don't play middling top-ups all year at the expense of getting much needed experience into promising youth.
I reckon you’ve nailed it Dragit...

And the ppl that run the club, that make the decisions... I don’t reckon they expect us to make the finals this year.

Richo’s reign: rebuild, rebuild, Steady improvement... steady improvement... old guard begin to retire, Richo is re-signed for 2 more years, Riewoldt (the best of us) and Monty retire.

No doubt finals is the goal but from a club perspective I don’t think it’s the be all and end all this season.


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Post: # 1714113Post congorozides »

Con Gorozidis wrote:Trivia question:

How many coaches in AFL/VFL history have survived coaching their first 100 games without making a final?

Can anybody think of one?

I thought of KB but he only coached 88 games.

Peter Knights managed one finals appearance.
Ill answer this:

Bill Stephen - Fitzroy - managed only 1 finals appearance in 256 games.
Jack Hale - South/Hawthorn - 2 finals in 172 games.
Alec Hall - Saints/Demons/Tigers/Hawks - 0 finals in 137 games.
Robert Shaw - Crows/Lions - 0 finals in 130 games.
Paddy Scanlan - 0 in 126 games.
Bobby Skilton - 0 finals in 123 games.
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Post: # 1714114Post dragit »

congorozides wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Trivia question:

How many coaches in AFL/VFL history have survived coaching their first 100 games without making a final?

Can anybody think of one?

I thought of KB but he only coached 88 games.

Peter Knights managed one finals appearance.
Come on SS history buffs.
There must be someone?
Richo cant be the first ever to achieve this surely?
Alec Hall
Ken Judge
Paddy Scanlan
Robert Shaw
Alan Kiligrew
Bob Skilton

Bill Stephen
Jack Hale
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Post: # 1714115Post congorozides »

dragit wrote: Alec Hall
Ken Judge
Paddy Scanlan
Robert Shaw
Alan Kiligrew - Saints/North - 0 finals in 124 games
Bob Skilton
Good work!

Although Judge played a final in his first season (1996 - Hawks 6 point loss to Swans)
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Post: # 1714117Post spert »

Guys, just face it..Richo aint up to it. Unless he has been given some divine gift over summer, we will just see more oi the same this season- flopping around mid ladder and going nowhere.


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Post: # 1714118Post desertsaint »

so he's in the top ten worst performing coaches to make 100 games?
if he lasts two more seasons he becomes second on the list.
a big season coming up for him and us


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Post: # 1714125Post Jacks Back »

satchmo wrote:Sack every coach. Sack'em retrospectively if you have to. Aint nuthin like a sackin!
Why do we even need the same coach every week, anyhow?
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Post: # 1736670Post FortiusQuoFidelius »

Bump


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Post: # 1736708Post MC Gusto »

He must resign if no t sacked tonight


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