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Post: # 1699990Post Enrico_Misso »

2011 National draft - Picks 1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11,13,14
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2012 Rookie draft – Pick 1
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2013 Pre-season draft - Pick 1
2013 Rookie draft – Pick 1
2014 National draft - Picks 4,6,7
2014 Pre-season draft - Pick 1


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Post: # 1699992Post bigred »

Every other club signed off on it.


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And the point is?


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Post: # 1699998Post Bruce G McAbee »

Having virtually no support and players wanting to play for a real club.
It's going to be interesting how they handle a 60 to 70 thousand crowd with 99% of the support against them.


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Ellaandjohn wrote:And the point is?


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saintspremiers wrote:
Ellaandjohn wrote:And the point is?


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Too irrelevant to hate. The amount of envy and bitterness directed around here twds rival Vic clubs making their charge at the flag, I would have thought that ppl would have been embracing the Giants. No-one cares whether they win or lose the flag surely - apart from about 500 ppl in Greater Western Sydney....


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Post: # 1700040Post degruch »

Despite all that, I've got no issues with them...talented players, good coaching, great to watch, aside from Greene they're wanker free, fair club to deal with, and no annoying arrogant supporters. Compare them to Melbourne during the same period of time - looked after almost as favourably, tanking and getting away with it, lazy and unorganised as a club, grovelling for compensation AND getting it, their haplessness leads the AFL to purchase them a coach, who then whines constantly they're not being looked after enough, their supporters go from being unable to speak to unbearably arrogant in half a season...and don't get me started on Richmond, Carlton, and especially Essendon. Good luck to the Giants, should they get past the Tiges.


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degruch wrote:Despite all that, I've got no issues with them...talented players, good coaching, great to watch, aside from Greene they're wanker free, fair club to deal with, and no annoying arrogant supporters. Compare them to Melbourne during the same period of time - looked after almost as favourably, tanking and getting away with it, lazy and unorganised as a club, grovelling for compensation AND getting it, their haplessness leads the AFL to purchase them a coach, who then whines constantly they're not being looked after enough, their supporters go from being unable to speak to unbearably arrogant in half a season...and don't get me started on Richmond, Carlton, and especially Essendon. Good luck to the Giants, should they get past the Tiges.
Yeah I can't say I hate GWS. Disappointing that they can't even draw a crowd for a finals match, however. I guess if Richmond lose to them, I'd much prefer to see them go on and take the premiership as opposed to the Crahs or the Sheepshafters.


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degruch wrote:Despite all that, I've got no issues with them...talented players, good coaching, great to watch, aside from Greene they're wanker free, fair club to deal with, and no annoying arrogant supporters. Compare them to Melbourne during the same period of time - looked after almost as favourably, tanking and getting away with it, lazy and unorganised as a club, grovelling for compensation AND getting it, their haplessness leads the AFL to purchase them a coach, who then whines constantly they're not being looked after enough, their supporters go from being unable to speak to unbearably arrogant in half a season...and don't get me started on Richmond, Carlton, and especially Essendon. Good luck to the Giants, should they get past the Tiges.
Hard to argue, degruch. I don't mind watching them. They play an attractive brand of football, they're trying to grow the game in hostile territory and they don't have annoying supporters. I don't think they'll be the dominant force everyone feared they would be. They're competitive, which is what the AFL wants and they're winning enough to keep the locals interested. I hope they beat Richmond. I'm annoyed that their assistance has affected us, but we could still jag a flag.


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Post: # 1700086Post Enrico_Misso »

The 2014 numbers should be ignored as they are the result of trading earlier years picks.

But the point is that this contrived club was given "everything" (at our expense) to ensure success.
If they don't win a flag in the next few years then expect another round of extremely generous concessions (at our expense).
Their miserable supporter base (not surprising if you have ever driven through western Sydney) indicates zero prospect for ongoing sustainability, so expect a constant wave of handouts and support from the AFL (at our expense).


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I suspect their coach is not the gun we're led to believe he is.


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GWS exist for TV ratings and that's it. They're a reality TV team.


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Wow - more hatred for a new team than those we have lost GFs to recently.

Wow, said teams got draft picks to start off. So many didn't work out, so many came home. Still angry.

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Depressing really.

Thankfully Treloar, Steele, Marchbank have been poached but there needs to be a lot more leave to stop them winning a flag in the next three years.


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Enrico_Misso wrote:The 2014 numbers should be ignored as they are the result of trading earlier years picks.

But the point is that this contrived club was given "everything" (at our expense) to ensure success.
If they don't win a flag in the next few years then expect another round of extremely generous concessions (at our expense).
Their miserable supporter base (not surprising if you have ever driven through western Sydney) indicates zero prospect for ongoing sustainability, so expect a constant wave of handouts and support from the AFL (at our expense).
You forget that Gold Coast got almost the same concessions.
They have been completely wasted by
1. a recruitment team whose incompetence is only rivalled by that of St Kilda during the naughties.
2. a series of coaches who could not tie a football boot's laces.
3. a bunch of administrators whose self importance and self entitlement is only rivalled by former Victorian state parliament Labor speaker and deputy speaker.
Is it any wonder that any player with talent wants out of the place a fast as possible.


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GregPackhamsHeadband wrote:I suspect their coach is not the gun we're led to believe he is.
They are by far the most talented team in the competition on an individual basis BUT
they are seriously short of players who only have guts and determination, the determination to win the contest or die trying, the determination to run down and tackle because their life depends on it.
I hate the term downhill skier used in this context because in reality that is what I am (writing from Falls Creek)
But I would not want one of them to be a chairlift to carry me to the top of the mountain.
They need the defensive pressure that Richardson has got a low talent group of players at St Kilda playing.


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GregPackhamsHeadband wrote:I suspect their coach is not the gun we're led to believe he is.
They are by far the most talented team in the competition on an individual basis BUT
they are seriously short of players who only have guts and determination, the determination to win the contest or die trying, the determination to run down and tackle because their life depends on it.
I hate the term downhill skier used in this context because in reality that is what I am (writing from Falls Creek)
But I would not want one of them to be a chairlift to carry me to the top of the mountain.
They need the defensive pressure that Richardson has got a low talent group of players at St Kilda playing.
The defensive pressure that got us to 11th?

Yes I am sure they look to us as a benchmark :roll:

GWS are playing in their second prelim in two years.
They are going ok.


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Enrico_Misso wrote:2011 National draft - Picks 1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11,13,14
2011 Pre-season draft - Picks 1,2,3,4,5,6
2011 Rookie draft – Pick 1
2012 National draft - Picks 1,2,3
2012 Pre-season draft - Pick 1
2012 Rookie draft – Pick 1
2013 National draft - Picks 1,2
2013 Pre-season draft - Pick 1
2013 Rookie draft – Pick 1
2014 National draft - Picks 4,6,7
2014 Pre-season draft - Pick 1
GT could stuff that up....

But seriously, we could lose by a toe poke due to some internal fighting/club implosion


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We had 13 AA players on our list in 2009 and 2010 and still couldn't win a flag.


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Given their talent, they should've won last year and be a shoe in this year. The fact they've come up empty and are likely to do so again this year is a damning condemnation of their coaching staff.


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If you turn your colour on the TV up or down the orange could almost pass for red (especially if your a bit colour blind) and the charcoal can pass for black. Hey their not bad colours now. :D


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Opposite end of the spectrum. Look at the Crows. Lost Dangerfield. Suffered draft penalties after over paying Tippett (who was hopeless anyway).
A captain off the rookie list.
Incredible effort by the coaching staff and recruiters.


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I can't help hoping the giants win - my only gut-connection to any of the teams left in is Lenny.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:Opposite end of the spectrum. Look at the Crows. Lost Dangerfield. Suffered draft penalties after over paying Tippett (who was hopeless anyway).
A captain off the rookie list.
Incredible effort by the coaching staff and recruiters.
Our captain was off the rookie list

Tex Walker was from the national draft, but as part of the NSW scholarship program I believe

Was still an absolute steal though


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