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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby Myron Gaines » Thu 14 Sep 2017 2:49pm

SMS wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:Good work jaxons - nailed it as per usual.

It sounds like it's on to the draft. At 7/8 I like:

- Nick Coffield, 190cm, 84kg, utility/midfielder. Runs a sub 2.9sec 20metres. Extreme pace, versatile, nice side step, moves well in traffic

- Aaron Naughton, 194cm, 84cm, key back. Great hands, intercepting marking, rebounding, attacking defender


Nughton? WA boy you wouldnt rather stephenson? I think we need xfactor stephenson could be anything.

Stephenson and Collfield would be a dream result imo. Tall running/FAST good kicking mids.


I really rate young Naughton & he fills a need. Brown is old & Goddard is unproven. Currently we only have Carlisle as a proven & longterm tall defender option.

I would be okay with Stephenson although he doesn't overly excite me. His ball use is below par. Hunter Clarke has been the form midfielder for Tac level since moving from the backline. I like him too however we have plenty of players similar.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby parkeysainter » Thu 14 Sep 2017 2:49pm

Darth Vader wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:
stonecold wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:Who is Jaxon's anyway? What is their involvement with the club?

Why won't he/she answer it or anyone else?

Or is it just another Saints fan that posts here and pretends they are in the know on this stuff?

Just bloody curious to find out.



Well done to Jaxons, however he has just reported what has been stated by Kelly's manager and the media for months really!!!!!

Having said that, he has got many right and has credits in the bank, well done Jax!!!!!

Let's see if you come good again with the 'Big Saints Surprise' come trade time?????

I'm sure you know what im talking about, given your status, let's see!!!!!

Keep up the good work!!!!!



Yeah. All good but what is their position? Who does he/she know all this?


Assuming he's a genuine ITK (which I believe he is) as if he'd tell us who he is.


It would be nice to know a little...not expecting a name or complete job title of course.

But he/she at the club? A player manager? Journo?

Why the cloak and dagger stuff. Lol
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby SMS » Thu 14 Sep 2017 3:14pm

Are we prehaps getting Lever or Stringer!?
Why not? we have more money than anyone!! ffs we shou;d get both.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby Sainternist » Thu 14 Sep 2017 3:14pm

jaxons wrote:
MC Gusto wrote:Looks like Jaxsons was right about kelly....



Dunno why you blokes doubt him


Thanks MC....wish I had different news on this one, nothing would have given me more pleasure to report a more positive outcome.


So tell us why this one fell through!
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby MickThomas » Thu 14 Sep 2017 3:25pm

Myron Gaines wrote:
SMS wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:Good work jaxons - nailed it as per usual.

It sounds like it's on to the draft. At 7/8 I like:

- Nick Coffield, 190cm, 84kg, utility/midfielder. Runs a sub 2.9sec 20metres. Extreme pace, versatile, nice side step, moves well in traffic

- Aaron Naughton, 194cm, 84cm, key back. Great hands, intercepting marking, rebounding, attacking defender


Nughton? WA boy you wouldnt rather stephenson? I think we need xfactor stephenson could be anything.

Stephenson and Collfield would be a dream result imo. Tall running/FAST good kicking mids.


I really rate young Naughton & he fills a need. Brown is old & Goddard is unproven. Currently we only have Carlisle as a proven & longterm tall defender option.

I would be okay with Stephenson although he doesn't overly excite me. His ball use is below par. Hunter Clarke has been the form midfielder for Tac level since moving from the backline. I like him too however we have plenty of players similar.


Brown isn't really old, it's just that he's slow, and he used to cover his lack of speed by having good judgement,
but now his judgement isn't good enough to do that.

His stats show he averages, per game-
Kicks: 1.95 Marks: 1.27 Handballs: 5.05

In 2015/2016, for the Filth, he averaged
Kicks: 5 Marks: 4 Handballs: 5

I see this as caused by perhaps (could be wrong) a combination of a different role now,
as well as different team-mates.
I recall the Norf game where Ben Brown was taken off the ground by Scott,
allegedly because NJB had quelled him so well (according to some media)
And Ben Brown is supposed to be a sort of handy forward.

NJB has figured in coaches votes at least once, I think he got 2 votes in total
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby Proph3t of egan » Thu 14 Sep 2017 7:26pm

Myron Gaines wrote:
SMS wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:Good work jaxons - nailed it as per usual.

It sounds like it's on to the draft. At 7/8 I like:

- Nick Coffield, 190cm, 84kg, utility/midfielder. Runs a sub 2.9sec 20metres. Extreme pace, versatile, nice side step, moves well in traffic

- Aaron Naughton, 194cm, 84cm, key back. Great hands, intercepting marking, rebounding, attacking defender


Nughton? WA boy you wouldnt rather stephenson? I think we need xfactor stephenson could be anything.

Stephenson and Collfield would be a dream result imo. Tall running/FAST good kicking mids.


I really rate young Naughton & he fills a need. Brown is old & Goddard is unproven. Currently we only have Carlisle as a proven & longterm tall defender option.

I would be okay with Stephenson although he doesn't overly excite me. His ball use is below par. Hunter Clarke has been the form midfielder for Tac level since moving from the backline. I like him too however we have plenty of players similar.

So the answer to a unproven player like Goddard, is another unproven player?
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby Myron Gaines » Thu 14 Sep 2017 7:36pm

Proph3t of egan wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:
SMS wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:Good work jaxons - nailed it as per usual.

It sounds like it's on to the draft. At 7/8 I like:

- Nick Coffield, 190cm, 84kg, utility/midfielder. Runs a sub 2.9sec 20metres. Extreme pace, versatile, nice side step, moves well in traffic

- Aaron Naughton, 194cm, 84cm, key back. Great hands, intercepting marking, rebounding, attacking defender


Nughton? WA boy you wouldnt rather stephenson? I think we need xfactor stephenson could be anything.

Stephenson and Collfield would be a dream result imo. Tall running/FAST good kicking mids.


I really rate young Naughton & he fills a need. Brown is old & Goddard is unproven. Currently we only have Carlisle as a proven & longterm tall defender option.

I would be okay with Stephenson although he doesn't overly excite me. His ball use is below par. Hunter Clarke has been the form midfielder for Tac level since moving from the backline. I like him too however we have plenty of players similar.

So the answer to a unproven player like Goddard, is another unproven player?


Back in two horses & you've got more chance of winning. Goddard & Naughton very different players, room for both if they are good enough.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby Proph3t of egan » Thu 14 Sep 2017 8:35pm

Myron Gaines wrote:
Proph3t of egan wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:
SMS wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:Good work jaxons - nailed it as per usual.

It sounds like it's on to the draft. At 7/8 I like:

- Nick Coffield, 190cm, 84kg, utility/midfielder. Runs a sub 2.9sec 20metres. Extreme pace, versatile, nice side step, moves well in traffic

- Aaron Naughton, 194cm, 84cm, key back. Great hands, intercepting marking, rebounding, attacking defender


Nughton? WA boy you wouldnt rather stephenson? I think we need xfactor stephenson could be anything.

Stephenson and Collfield would be a dream result imo. Tall running/FAST good kicking mids.


I really rate young Naughton & he fills a need. Brown is old & Goddard is unproven. Currently we only have Carlisle as a proven & longterm tall defender option.

I would be okay with Stephenson although he doesn't overly excite me. His ball use is below par. Hunter Clarke has been the form midfielder for Tac level since moving from the backline. I like him too however we have plenty of players similar.

So the answer to a unproven player like Goddard, is another unproven player?


Back in two horses & you've got more chance of winning. Goddard & Naughton very different players, room for both if they are good enough.

But that still leaves a chance that neither will make it. I agree that we need another backmen, but I think we should be looking in maybe one of the state leagues or trade/free agency for a more certain level of player and use our draft picks on best talent available
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby jaxons » Thu 14 Sep 2017 10:08pm

SMS wrote:Are we prehaps getting Lever or Stringer!?
Why not? we have more money than anyone!! ffs we shou;d get both.


Lever is done to Melbourne so not getting him.
I don't think we will go for Stringer as he has a lot of off field issues.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby suss » Thu 14 Sep 2017 10:26pm

jaxons wrote:
SMS wrote:Are we prehaps getting Lever or Stringer!?
Why not? we have more money than anyone!! ffs we shou;d get both.


Lever is done to Melbourne so not getting him.
I don't think we will go for Stringer as he has a lot of off field issues.



You thinking we'll go to the draft with 7 and 8, Jaxons?

It just seems so at odds with the whole strategy?
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby Sainternist » Thu 14 Sep 2017 10:26pm

jaxons wrote:
SMS wrote:Are we prehaps getting Lever or Stringer!?
Why not? we have more money than anyone!! ffs we shou;d get both.


Lever is done to Melbourne so not getting him.
I don't think we will go for Stringer as he has a lot of off field issues.


There should be a collective sigh of relief over this.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby Dave McNamara » Thu 14 Sep 2017 10:33pm

jaxons wrote:
SMS wrote:Are we prehaps getting Lever or Stringer!?
Why not? we have more money than anyone!! ffs we shou;d get both.


... I don't think we will go for Stringer as he has a lot of off field issues.

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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby saintsRrising » Thu 14 Sep 2017 10:37pm

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Lever is done to Melbourne so not getting him.
I don't think we will go for Stringer as he has a lot of off field issues.


That does not leave a lot of quality now amongst either the players who are FA's, or not contracted, or will be let go. Rocky is about the only man left standing and he is good rather than elite.

To prize a player, or players, loose that is elite and who is contracted will cost a lot in both trade (players and or picks) and $$$. Un-contracted means that that you can gain them for less. I don't mean cheap, but for less. But like Old Mother Hubbard, that closet is now quite bare.

So who is there that is good, but cannot a game, or will be squeezed out. With Kelly staying, and Whitfield extending, they may be someone from GWS that they need to let go.


I just fear it will be a half back flanker or a middling player like Dalhaus from the Dogs.

Looks like we will keep our first 2 picks and pick up up a player or two that are not key at their existing clubs.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby SaintPav » Thu 14 Sep 2017 10:41pm

jaxons wrote:
Lever is done to Melbourne so not getting him.




That's just great!

Does anyone want to actually come to us?
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby Teflon » Thu 14 Sep 2017 10:45pm

Who cares don't throw big money at b graders
Keep powder dry till someone of worth comes along
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby Devilhead » Thu 14 Sep 2017 10:51pm

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jaxons wrote:
Lever is done to Melbourne so not getting him.
I don't think we will go for Stringer as he has a lot of off field issues.


That does not leave a lot of quality now amongst either the players who are FA's, or not contracted, or will be let go. Rocky is about the only man left standing and he is good rather than elite.

To prize a player, or players, loose that is elite and who is contracted will cost a lot in both trade (players and or picks) and $$$. Un-contracted means that that you can gain them for less. I don't mean cheap, but for less. But like Old Mother Hubbard, that closet is now quite bare.

So who is there that is good, but cannot a game, or will be squeezed out. With Kelly staying, and Whitfield extending, they may be someone from GWS that they need to let go.


I just fear it will be a half back flanker or a middling player like Dalhaus from the Dogs.

Looks like we will keep our first 2 picks and pick up up a player or two that are not key at their existing clubs.


Next year's FA class is sooooooo much juicier - quit worrying!

If Kelly doesn't come then take 7 & 8 to the draft

You would think Melbourne are now done with their rebuild
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby jaxons » Thu 14 Sep 2017 10:57pm

suss wrote:
jaxons wrote:
SMS wrote:Are we prehaps getting Lever or Stringer!?
Why not? we have more money than anyone!! ffs we shou;d get both.


Lever is done to Melbourne so not getting him.
I don't think we will go for Stringer as he has a lot of off field issues.



You thinking we'll go to the draft with 7 and 8, Jaxons?

It just seems so at odds with the whole strategy?



Right now I am thinking that is our fall back position, and a pretty good position to be in.
Let's see what transpires.....
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby suss » Thu 14 Sep 2017 11:13pm

jaxons wrote:
suss wrote:
jaxons wrote:
SMS wrote:Are we prehaps getting Lever or Stringer!?
Why not? we have more money than anyone!! ffs we shou;d get both.


Lever is done to Melbourne so not getting him.
I don't think we will go for Stringer as he has a lot of off field issues.



You thinking we'll go to the draft with 7 and 8, Jaxons?

It just seems so at odds with the whole strategy?



Right now I am thinking that is our fall back position, and a pretty good position to be in.
Let's see what transpires.....



Could be worse I guess. Thanks for responding.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby Goose is king » Thu 14 Sep 2017 11:33pm

I say use the picks in the draft. If someone offers us a no brainier take it.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby saints66 » Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:32am

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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby saints66 » Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:48am

One from left field to fill a key back position is SAM COLLINS from Freemantle. Aged 23 height 194 cms weight 97 kgs. Oakleigh Chargers, Box Hill, Freemantle. First season in 2016 was good with solid 14 games down back. Fell out of favour with Lyons because he kept playing Zac Dawson instead of the youth this year and they also got the Footscray Premiership full back, Joel Hamling.

Melbourne guy with great attitude, skills, discipline and family.

Lyon does that with players to teach them a lesson without explaining what lesson he wants them to learn. He burns young players.

Would be great at the Saints and probably could get him for a third round pick.

Another one who would like to play back in Melbourne is Harley Balic. Worth lookng at!
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby stonecold » Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:58am

jaxons wrote:
SMS wrote:Are we prehaps getting Lever or Stringer!?
Why not? we have more money than anyone!! ffs we shou;d get both.


Lever is done to Melbourne so not getting him.
I don't think we will go for Stringer as he has a lot of off field issues.


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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby saints66 » Fri 15 Sep 2017 1:04am

Another one is Matthew Kennedy from GWS. Big bodied first round midfielder. Quick and can kick a goal and would not be on much now or in the future with the likes of Kelly, Whitfield, Shield, Cameron etc hogging the cap.

What I am saying is there are many players out there that would be of benefit to us maybe not super stars like Kelly or Martin but who have played a couple of years are ready made to play well. We benefited by obtaining Steele this year. We can benefit again by getting good players at a lower cost, get a couple of draft players like Dow or Codfield and keep our powder dry for the following year. 2018 is said by the so called experts meant to be a super draft so maybe we develop our own top up with some good available cheaper players and continue with our youth strategy in the draft.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby The_President » Fri 15 Sep 2017 1:16am

SMS wrote:Id love to know WHO exactly started this rumor of us getting kelly.
john20396789 still claiming its fact and he will still claim until proven 100% wrong. JUST A TROLL.
MG - TROLL
JOHN23456789 - TROLL
TEW - TROLL
they have all may have been fooled by a rumor or infact started it. Eitherway they talked as if they had inside knowledge. REAL inside knowledge which is BS.
pathwetic from them. Long Live Jaxons.

You know its BS when they go quiet and only come out again once nothing is signed yet.



Don't!!!!! forget!!!!! coldstone!!!!!!

Been telling us that we're getting Kelly for months

Wrong again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)

Postby saintsRrising » Fri 15 Sep 2017 2:44am

SMS wrote:Id love to know WHO exactly started this rumor of us getting kelly.
john20396789 still claiming its fact and he will still claim until proven 100% wrong. JUST A TROLL.
MG - TROLL
JOHN23456789 - TROLL
TEW - TROLL
they have all may have been fooled by a rumor or infact started it. Eitherway they talked as if they had inside knowledge. REAL inside knowledge which is BS.
pathwetic from them. Long Live Jaxons.

You know its BS when they go quiet and only come out again once nothing is signed yet.



To be fair to MG I don't think he actually posted that Kelly was coming. And I certainly do not think that MG is a troll or in anyway was trolling either in the Kelly intsance or indeed in any instance.

As I posted earlier in the thread his posts on Kelly were like this...

Moorabbin Ghost wrote:
Something has changed in the Kelly race too very recently. I've had 2 people say to me today that he will be a Saint, one saying from 2018-2023 for a touch over $6M.
Mark my words if he leaves he'll be a Saint.


I think on the whole that MG posts some pretty reasonable stuff. Like jaxsons has said. Things change and I think MG has only reported what he has heard in a pretty reasonable way including qualifying as in the post above where it was obviously not his normal sources and where he did not actually say that Kelly was coming.

As I posted earlier in this thread John had made very few posts. So just like I do on TripAdvisor I put little store in posters with few posts. You look at a posters track record over time. And as I have indicated I think MG is a pretty reasonable and reliable poster.
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