Where was the concern for the last decade and a half for players like Milne and Riewoldt who got booed (and lot worse) week in week out by supporters of other clubs including Sydney? Where was the AFL then? Where were the bleeding hearts hiding then? Exactly. I have been saying that the whole time....

That's fair enough. I wouldnt know how rich or poor you are, you're clearly no idiot though, let's be honest. I didn't mention class. Regarding Charlie Hebdo, those guys made themselves martyrs for the right to offend, but the attack was nevertheless disgusting and wrong. It is a tough issue though,...

I did check the arguments. Then I checked your posts in other threads. Now I feel I know where your interest in this issue lies. I'm sure if you were being racially abused you'd be slightly less enthusiastic about the defence of free speech. No I wouldn't. I'm an Anglo-Saxon. We have a pretty robus...

Grampaw.

I did check the arguments. Then I checked your posts in other threads. Now I feel I know where your interest in this issue lies.

I'm sure if you were being racially abused you'd be slightly less enthusiastic about the defence of free speech.

[ Utter lunacy and fallacious conflation of freedom of speech - which is essentially what this boils down to - and physically assaulting someone. The right to offend must be included within the right to free speech, speaking of which (sorry, slightly off topic but relevant recent discussion on this...

EDIT: my response to bunk was a bit ott, so I've cut it. My response to saynta was based on my assumption that many collingwood supporters didn't think they were racist either, just didn't like Nicky the man. I have no evidence to prove that, only heard the opinions of a handful. Anyway I scratched ...

It's pretty clear from the nature of the posts on this thread what the characters of those posters are. It's a real shame, but there you go. I'm not gonna get into this again, I realise its pointless to debate social issues this serious in this context. But a big F.U. to those of us who chose to boo...

Everyone is theoretically tradeable. But its a waste of time saying trade this bloke or trade that bloke unless you tell us what for. How would we get something better for it? If it was a straight swap for Treloar then yes ok. But Just saying trade someone isnt that helpful unless you tell us what ...

Theory I understand but practically and reality wise not a chance un hell. Steven is a gun. Disposal questionable at times but so is dangerfield. His speed and spread and inside use is elite. Apart from that to get rid of senior player in hope of draft talent would be terrible for morale and cultur...

I think it's a great idea. I've gone on at length about this subject before, but the more pro-active the match going supporters are about creating a formidable atmosphere, the better. If we coincide this with our apparent strengthening as a club and a team, we have the opportunity to create a legacy...

I have a question that I'm not sure needs a separate thread: With St Kikda having a standalone VFL team next year, does St Kilda have an extended list with enough players for both teams or does St Kilda VFL have an independent list with room for our non 1st team players? If the first option, I assu...

The kid was obviously dropped at birth. Bring back the Archbishop of St.Kilda! http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee408/sickofital/archbishop_zps842e7389.gif [/url] That video is AWESOME! Come back, Bish! St Kilda needs you! Also, Pav: cheers, I get where you were coming from by the way and it cou...

Why do you need a national audience to do it? It's the parent/guardian who makes the decision for his kid to speak before a national audience. I have issues with using kids in the media. You're not as smart as you think you are Austinn. Thanks for telling me, Pav. Most people aren't, I find. I woul...

I have a question that I'm not sure needs a separate thread: With St Kikda having a standalone VFL team next year, does St Kilda have an extended list with enough players for both teams or does St Kilda VFL have an independent list with room for our non 1st team players? If the first option, I assum...

Good luck to the kid. Takes a lot of guts to go against the mainstream. +1 They were sitting two rows in front of me on Saturday. They had pretty much every single media outlet hovering. It would appear his dad is mates with one of the umpires... I dunno, it just doesn't seem right. But each to the...

HitTheBoundary wrote:Good luck to the kid.

Takes a lot of guts to go against the mainstream.

+1

Only if they stay on the tanking cycle. There will always be a desire for a top up... Just one more pick, then I'll quit, I swear... Meanwhile the club and all involved in it are wasting away. But I guess all their guns will just get switched on in a few years and their days of trying not so hard to...

You may be right Plugger. They have to be pretty bad though. As do Carlton. I thought the Dees were better. They do have master coach Roos after all.

Now THAT's how you tank! Sensational effort from the Melbourne Demons to go for the picks over meaningless character-building wins. Those guys are gonna be awesome with all their early draft picks. They are playing the game and exploiting the system which is great for their supporters who are not cl...

Apparently he had a good game, that's great. We finally worked out that he's a midfielder, fantastic. As I see it we have two options. Squeeze a few more years out of a reborn midfielder, the same way we turned Aussie Jones into a gun defender and got a few more very serviceable years out of him. Or...

I wish we'd sold Sam Gilbert back when he was worth something.

Not thinking of sledges, more physical stuff. He is tall but is young and seems mild mannered, could be intimidated faced with the aggression of some snarlng bogan.

Hopefully he'd just laugh and play his game.

If I was the Geelong coach, I'd be firing up their ruckmen with disgust that some blow-in can waltz in and quickly pick up what they've been perfecting since they were kids. Hope Holmes is prepared for the rough stuff, the melees, the dog acts, etc. What's more, I hope his teammates are prepared to ...

Under 23s: Melbourne: Hogan, Viney, Tyson, Brayshaw, Petracca, Salem, Gawn, Toumpas, Frost St Kilda: Billings, Newnes, Dunstan, Goddard, McCartin, Webster, Lonie, Longer, Acres There's so much more quality in that first list. It doesn't matter that we "match up on them pretty well" becaus...