skeptic wrote: ↑Fri 18 Sep 2020 9:50pm Said it last week and will say it again... next to Butler, Lonie is the best FP we have. Love his attack on the ball

If Lonie was 5cm taller and 5kg heavier he would be an absolute gun.

shrodes wrote: ↑Fri 18 Sep 2020 9:34pm

roskilde wrote: ↑Fri 18 Sep 2020 9:33pm Anybody know why we've shifted to the rule that our key forward plays ruck in stoppages in the forward 50 no matter how many dedicated rucks are playing? I can't understand that.

I think main ruck sits just outside 50 as the wall

It's a little too defensive at this stage of the game for me.

CURLY wrote: ↑Fri 18 Sep 2020 9:00pm Time for Geary to go to Whitfield.

Looks ready to go to a field, maybe even a pasture.

It has been a while since Skunk cluncked one like that.

So good to see early.

We have the ruck combo to combat GWS midfield strength. Mummy is cooked so Ryder needs to be putting it down the throat of our mids. Our bookends are similar. Their forwards are better than ours but our defence is better than theirs. Carlise and Howard need to have blinders. Greene is the wild card...

I haven't been around for a while, but I expect the answer is Longer. He will dominate with blocks you have to see to believe

I think he was the greatest ruckman of all time.

Was never sold on him but remember him being touted as the greatest of all time here by someone.

Will take some doing to miss, but we are experts at disappointment. If anyone can we can :wink: There are just some things we are the best at. Obviously you're a realist & understand our short comings but hey we are half a chance here As a Saints supporter I am always an optimist. As a Saints s...

bangaulegend wrote: ↑Sat 12 Sep 2020 11:42pm

Ape_Man wrote: ↑Sat 12 Sep 2020 11:40pm Will take some doing to miss, but we are experts at disappointment.

If anyone can we can

There are just some things we are the best at.

Will take some doing to miss, but we are experts at disappointment.

Acres would be pretty handy right now.

Would have loved to see him play under Ratts.

Happened in Perth hmmm

Can we swap him for Acres?

Gutted over Acres going.

Feels like Fremantle reamed us and got massive overs.

I guess time will tell.

Still gutted.

There must be something else that can be done? Can we get Butler and send him West?

I think I’ve started the 5 stages of grief.

Port game not too long ago - Dunstan kept us in it, boys slogged their guts out, seconds to go: Ryder to Gray, Acres MIA, we lose. Blake (what me?) you had one job. That possibly defines Blake & I think we are getting more than .4047 hectares for him on conversion. Acres should have been runnin...

Hill’s running ability is elite, and stats don’t/can’t show that. Combine that with his other attributes and he’s an A grader based on his line breaking ability Billings would be an A Grader if he was not a head case in front of goal. Billings sometimes breaks lines with his field kicking, but does...

longtimesaint wrote:It’s taken the gloss off getting Hill if we lose Acres in the deal.

I feel the same.

It feels like we must be paying massive overs by including him.

If true I am gutted.

How do you know what type of kicks are achieving these percentages? Leroy Jetta at 65% is better than Seb Ross at 75% Why? when he hits a 45 target over 40m it breaks the game open... which leads to score involvements. Hill is a metres gained player, he carries the footy and kicks it a lot more tha...

Acres has been deployed in the F50 (including having to contest in the ruck) Plus has been used lining up on the edge of the centre square, so as a wing player for lack of a better description noting Melbourne’s comment that they tried 15 thru that position without success last season and have now ...

He has highlights because he’s elite! He does very good things in games of footy because he’s got talent. If you are suggesting Seb has better disposal than Hill, you’re off your rocker He works harder both ways than Billings I was just pointing out that Ross’ disposal efficiency is higher than Hil...

His numbers are elite 25 possessions off the wing, at high efficiency. He is the hardest running winger in the AFL and he uses it well. If he isn’t what we need with our plethora of slow inside Mids I’m a monkeys uncle! Seriously, get it done! He is more important than all the other trades put toge...

And just to add, we field 22 players each week So, as St Kilda’s history attests, you need more than an elite player or some elite players I maintain that Hill is A grade, not elite. You are, of course, correct that we need some elite players. My concern is that if we pay an elite price for Hill we...

Hill is elite He would automatically become our best player and only elite player on the list. The other four are nothing special... at all. I think people think his is the second coming of Winmar. He is not. Hill’s highlight reel is elite. His stats don’t back it up. He wasn’t in the All Australia...

Are we kidding ourselves now that he isn’t exactly what we need. We have probably bungled this... If you think Hill is worth more than Kelly, then I can understand how you think the club bungled the trade. But if you think that 2 first round picks and some change was too far over his actual value.....

I’m for the other 4 as well.

Hill is not the player Freo are asking compensation for. He is A grade, for sure, but not upper echelon elite.

Howard excites me more. Ready made key position players are so valuable. He was on the up before Hinkley Richo’d him.