Jack Stevens played 30 games before Ross showed his true colours and ran off to Freo for the cash. So if you claim he developed him he didn't develop Fyfe who already had 40 games before he arrived. Sean Darcy played 26 games only under Ross. You haven't really helped your own argument by showing h...

Well North don't need mids so we should get a beauty. Also no Thursday or Friday matches and few Saturday evening games. Unfortunately it also means a game at Mt Barker, about 8 interstate fixtures and no mercies from the MRO and umps. Character building. Give me Mt Barker over the Norwood Oval obl...

OUT: Sharman, Collard, Jones & Paton

IN: Clark, Crouch, Higgins & Stocker

Jack Stevens played 30 games before Ross showed his true colours and ran off to Freo for the cash. So if you claim he developed him he didn't develop Fyfe who already had 40 games before he arrived. Sean Darcy played 26 games only under Ross. You haven't really helped your own argument by showing h...

As someone who witnesses training twice a week I can assure you it’s not the game plan. The training drills and ball movement are fast, in some cases kamikaze speed. It is basically all out attack. But obviously the defensive part of those drills are less than frantic as injuries would happen all t...

As someone who witnesses training twice a week I can assure you it’s not the game plan. The training drills and ball movement are fast, in some cases kamikaze speed. It is basically all out attack. But obviously the defensive part of those drills are less than frantic as injuries would happen all t...

Cordy is decent, a bit underrated. Might need to bring him in to the defence and move Howard or Battle forward.

The flaw in Connolly's argument is that when Lyon had as going as he wanted in 2009, we were No.1 in defence and 4th for offence, this slipped to 8th offensively in 2010 although we remained No.1 defensively. The thing Connolly neglects to mention is that we didn't have Riewoldt for 12 weeks in 2010...

So Teffers Are you saying he inherited a bad list Ipso facto Ratten had a poor list Meaning it wasn’t his coaching - it was the list then too… right?! Ratten's defensive systems were s*** and he didn't know where our List was at. So it had a bit to do with his coaching. In hindsight Richo was a bet...

So Teffers Are you saying he inherited a bad list Ipso facto Ratten had a poor list Meaning it wasn’t his coaching - it was the list then too… right?! Ratten's defensive systems were s*** and he didn't know where our List was at. So it had a bit to do with his coaching. In hindsight Richo was a bet...

It is not an either/or situation. We need to turn over the list because we lack talent certainly. However, players are going backwards under the new messiah's watch. I would challenge any member of the Ross cult to try to refute that. The way we play lack's any semblance of a coherent game plan for...

But the players were ok last season?? Trouble is, no one was really saying that the players were ok last season. Many including me, always said we had issues with the midfield. I don't recall many saying we had a Top 4 List. Aside from Jack Steele (who is not elite), none of our midfielders are cur...

CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 18 May 2024 11:24pm Clearly playing the list to see what’s what.

Collard over Membrey
Patton over Ross

Yeah of course he’s going full tilt

Are you suggesting we're tanking? Certainly may as well now.

I mean if you constantly fumble and drop marks any gameplan disintegrates, you can't score and cannot possibly win.
The fact that we are just losing and not getting smashed, might have something to do with our system, particularly defensively, being ok.

I mean if you constantly fumble and drop marks any gameplan disintegrates, you can't score and cannot possibly win.

There's one if two possibilities. 1) the game has passed Lyon and his game plan doesn't work anymore. Or (2) Lyon's game plan is good but our players are too stupid to be able to follow it. The answer is mainly no. 2 and that some of our players simply aren't good enough. Our game against Collingwo...

Put a fork in him, hes done. Taken a middle team and turned them into a bottom 4 side that cant score. For reference Geelong without a bunch of their best players go to Darwin, get flogged by 60+ points and still manage to kick 100 themselves. At least their supporters have some goals to cheer. We ...

Put a fork in him, hes done. Taken a middle team and turned them into a bottom 4 side that cant score. For reference Geelong without a bunch of their best players go to Darwin, get flogged by 60+ points and still manage to kick 100 themselves. At least their supporters have some goals to cheer. We ...

Put a fork in him, hes done. Taken a middle team and turned them into a bottom 4 side that cant score. For reference Geelong without a bunch of their best players go to Darwin, get flogged by 60+ points and still manage to kick 100 themselves. At least their supporters have some goals to cheer. We ...

It isn't actually his Player Manager, it was his Endorsements Manager. He has 2 managers who fulfill different functions. This is not the Manager who negotiated his contract.

Brunswicksainter wrote: ↑Sun 12 May 2024 10:52pm

B.M wrote: ↑Sun 12 May 2024 10:44pm Was what he said incorrect?!

Owens far better under Lyon last year than in his first season. So factually incorrect.

Darcy Wilson is going alright too.

Put your hands up if you have ever said "play the kids" or you call for certain kids to be played every week, for example put your hands up if you have called for Arie or Collard to be played in the last few weeks, put your hands up if you have called for Hastie or Garcia to be played in ...

Out: Ross, Membrey, Hastie & Paton

In: Dow, Clark, Phillipou & Sharman

B.M wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 8:20pm We won the clearances

Won possession count

Won i50s

Lost the game - poor system

Poor system? Were you watching the game? You fumble and slip as much as we did and any system will fail.

The problem Lyon has - and I’m a fan is he’s wrong to say “it’s a quick fix” That’s nice to say but not true He doesn’t have players with the smarts in decision making to go fast He doesn’t have the players who are “clean” one touch ball users - ours fumble, drop chest marks, overrun the ball or si...