Exactly what percentage are we talking here? I see he got 8 clearances from 39 hit outs So at the very most 20% of the time Let’s say in those 8 times he did a hit out instead?! About 30-40% of those would be sharked by the opponent midfielders maybe more because they are better players A few would ...

Rubbish

He may not have lost a contest

But his opponent has lost him plenty of times and got an uncontested possession

Vindication- from Daniel Hoyne Haha 😝 We are ranked last because of the connection forward Because as Ross says - the midfield is spluttering Should I feel vindicated be Marshall was Sainter of the round? Who did you vote as StKs best player last two games? How do you rate our mids in the last two w...

I ummed and ahhed between Bonner and Paton as the seventh defender.

Flip of the coin really

One is a better offensive player, one is better defensively
Hunts I don’t think has 4 AFL quarters in him atm

Fully fit - he’s in rotating between HB and Midfield with Sincs and Stocker to the bench.

Getting the picks is only 1 part of rebuilding Getting the selection right is part 2 Developing them correctly is part 4 Having the right leadership and culture around them - part 4 We got it very right in 2000-2002 GT should take a lot of credit for that We got it very wrong 2012-2014 Elshaug and P...

Didn’t we beat Collingwood

B: Wilkie - Howard - Webster HB: NWM - Battle - Stocker C: Henry - Owens - Wood HF: Wilson - King - Hill F: Higgins - Caminiti - Hayes Foll: Marshall - Steele - Sinclair Int: Crouch - Dow - Windhager - Bonner Sub: Clark Emerg: Ross - Garcia - Sharman Sandy B: Cordy - Keeler - Seaton* HB: Paton - Sch...

I’m the other way

I think we’ve gifted games, which I’m not a fan of

Nothing wrong with learning in the VFL - especially with more significant roles

The ‘hatred’ is actually

Questioning Lyons game plan where we are lucky to kick 8 goals per game

One good win
Beat two basket cases
7 losses


And the way we are playing is dogshit - never seen worse!!!

Ross - as he does - has pigeonholed Owens

Steven really emerged in 2013 as a 23yo

How often did he grab the ball out of the ruck? 10 times?? There were around 90 ball ups It’s a reasonable tact - it gets the ball going your way (it’s a territory game) If you win a hit out stats say it’s about 60/40 that you even win the clearance. Over half the clearances are dump kicks - regardl...

Indifference

That’s being a bit kind

I prefer Marvel

Better viewing more comfortable and atmosphere is better

30 000 at the G is not great

Would you be happy with a 2nd round pick for Battle?

The odds of a 2nd rounder being at his level is 3-1 imo

Prefer to keep him - draft picks mean FA

Look at Geelong and Norrh

Marshall was voted as the BEST stk player Both the last two weeks by the coaches I’m pretty sure the results have a bit more to do with his lack of support from a few others - not visa versa Your argument is silly Trying to pin the result on our best player, by convincing yourself that even though h...

I would rather Ro get 30 and we win But that would mean a few others would need to play well with him and not leave it to one player trying to dominate It’s a silly argument It’s like saying Gary Ablett is responsible for losing the 89 GF because he only kicked 9. Or you’d prefer he didn’t kick 9 as...

Are you saying Marshall only plays well in losses and when he doesn’t play well we win

Obviously that’s wrong, and would take little research to prove it’s not the case

Ro is a great player. That simple

God Fk me dead Tony has been on here for years backing in the coaches and the players. Did it with the previous 2 coaches. Grain of salt Proof is in the pudding - not their little drills they do at training which I’ve seen umpteen times On Owens You want the players with poor disposal (and yeah, Owe...

Cordy has a massive crack - he’s not very good but has some c*** about him

Well

We were pumped

Only Marshall could really say he performed well enough

Maybe 1st half for Owens

Some others were serviceable but not significant

At the end of the day It was the 2014 draft that killed us I distinctly remember AR telling Elshaug we HAD to get the pick 1 right. He had concerns over Paddy’s weight and not overly dominating in is 18s year. Elshaugh was adamant he was our man. Hugh Goddard was a steal at pick 21 - did do an Achil...

Injuries haven’t played a part??

It could also mean Other players actually played better Marshall has been head and shoulders the BEST player in the last two weeks It’s just a pity no one did the heavy lifting with him Basically he has flown solo He is the furtherest thing from our issues, I laugh when we are play poorly and people...