Steven really emerged in 2013 as a 23yo

How often did he grab the ball out of the ruck? 10 times?? There were around 90 ball ups It’s a reasonable tact - it gets the ball going your way (it’s a territory game) If you win a hit out stats say it’s about 60/40 that you even win the clearance. Over half the clearances are dump kicks - regardl...

Indifference

That’s being a bit kind

I prefer Marvel

Better viewing more comfortable and atmosphere is better

30 000 at the G is not great

Would you be happy with a 2nd round pick for Battle?

The odds of a 2nd rounder being at his level is 3-1 imo

Prefer to keep him - draft picks mean FA

Look at Geelong and Norrh

Marshall was voted as the BEST stk player Both the last two weeks by the coaches I’m pretty sure the results have a bit more to do with his lack of support from a few others - not visa versa Your argument is silly Trying to pin the result on our best player, by convincing yourself that even though h...

I would rather Ro get 30 and we win But that would mean a few others would need to play well with him and not leave it to one player trying to dominate It’s a silly argument It’s like saying Gary Ablett is responsible for losing the 89 GF because he only kicked 9. Or you’d prefer he didn’t kick 9 as...

Are you saying Marshall only plays well in losses and when he doesn’t play well we win

Obviously that’s wrong, and would take little research to prove it’s not the case

Ro is a great player. That simple

God Fk me dead Tony has been on here for years backing in the coaches and the players. Did it with the previous 2 coaches. Grain of salt Proof is in the pudding - not their little drills they do at training which I’ve seen umpteen times On Owens You want the players with poor disposal (and yeah, Owe...

Cordy has a massive crack - he’s not very good but has some c*** about him

Well

We were pumped

Only Marshall could really say he performed well enough

Maybe 1st half for Owens

Some others were serviceable but not significant

At the end of the day It was the 2014 draft that killed us I distinctly remember AR telling Elshaug we HAD to get the pick 1 right. He had concerns over Paddy’s weight and not overly dominating in is 18s year. Elshaugh was adamant he was our man. Hugh Goddard was a steal at pick 21 - did do an Achil...

Injuries haven’t played a part??

It could also mean Other players actually played better Marshall has been head and shoulders the BEST player in the last two weeks It’s just a pity no one did the heavy lifting with him Basically he has flown solo He is the furtherest thing from our issues, I laugh when we are play poorly and people...

In what season did Alan Richardson have a top 4 (even a top 8) list? I think pretty much every year (except 1) we finished pretty much as expected. The fact we won 11 and 12 in 2016 and 2017 beggars belief Chris Pelchen (the architect behind our decade of failure) gutted the list. We bottomed out wh...

Wilkie plays at a high standard regardless He’s a good player Whether it’s Howard, Cordy or whoever play deep on the biggest forward - Wilkie rarely gets beaten on the 2 I remember when Wilkie had to be switched onto Harry McKay because he was giving Howard a bath and whilst giving up 13cm and 10+ k...

What?!

Playing 170-200+ games disappointing

Jono Rouke was disappointing
Mitch Thorpe was disappointing

His selection at 3 was the error (in hindsight) not his output.

Bit hard to get score assists when we don’t score

Does Marshall actually do it that much??? He had 37 hit outs So he didn’t do it at least 37 times We hang on to small details to illustrate a point which often by numbers is actually a fallacy I reckon he did it 6-8 times. And really, it should be a 50/50 ahead of the ball and actually put a lot of ...

Btw

He outplayed Jackson (who is a gun)

How many times does he actually do that? 10% And it’s kicked in dirty as a 50/50 ball. Why don’t the forwards predict/anticipate and engage their opponents? Marshall is an amazing player Would you rather a ruckman get 30 and take 10 marks and win 25 - 30 hit outs Or A ruckman get 10 and 3 marks and ...

Who is…?

As far as Key Backs go??

Doogs???

Played well in the VFL today

Thought Jimmy might have got the Steven Baker treatment

Doesn’t matter if you are guilty or not- 8 weeks!!!

After watching WC tonight

We have that to look forward to

Only Richmond and North are worse