The worst bit for me is week after week hoping Melbourne keeps slipping up in the race for the 2014 spoon. Its not a deserving send off for Lenny that in his final year we've gifted him with the worst prize in AFL! Surely our game against Freo was more than just good luck, or a poor game by our oppo...

Well I'm gutted. I guess it's one of those announcements you knew had to come one day..but you hoped it just wouldn't, ever. What can you say about Lenny Hayes. The guy had ice in his veins, he was as tough as nails, skill to burn & a thorough gentleman of the game. Damn I'm going to miss Lenny ...

The worst bit is somewhere along the lines we've mucked up our recruiting & list management. Geelong on the other hand had got the balance right. They could easily challenge again this year....and potentially win another flag. We on the other hand will be lucky to get past the Suns this season.....

I think we'll get up against Adelaide. I was very impressed with the effort we brought against West Coast. The pulse seems strong with these young Saints...with a guiding hand by some mature heads. I like what I've seen so far.

Funny how they've been able to belt Saads issue through at lightning pace (which is the best outcome for Saad not having this hanging over his head for a further 12 months - and the club keeping him indefinitely suspended). But they are taking their time with Essendon which in turn would make it har...

And not one single Essendon player has been brought to account. Typical. I don't seriously give a crap what anyone else thinks...but this is a sad reality. They chose to take those injections..ignorantly. Saad, was also ignorant...but here's the difference: One bloke doesn't duck and weave and cops...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ahmed-saad-granted-permission-to-train-with-st-kilda-as-he-awaits-fate-for-taking-banned-stimulant/story-fni5f22o-1226763574128 Personally I thought his delisting will prove to be a real loss for us. I loved his style and ability. He will be a gun in seasons to ...

Agree wholeheartedly MM

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/steph ... 2xl8d.html

More tough times ahead for both parties it appears.

Herald Hun has it going - http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6759243729

Interesting appointment. Speaks well and has a wealth of experience. Makes 2014 more promising...or unpredictable I should say.

Personally I hope we don't lose him. He'll be one player you won't want playing for the opposition in the coming seasons. What he did was stupid, but he doesn't deserve anything more than a 6 month ban

I thought Watter was going to bring the stability to the club to be honest. He was trying to develop new players (whatever we've got because who honestly knows - we've hardly blooded any newbs during the previous years under Lyon) Seems like we're really good at trimming the roses off before the flo...

We're a bloody joke..seriously.

We're obviously having a fire sale. Failure upon failure and now failing some more.

Our recruiting has been crap, our player development has been crap. My only hope is we don't score another wooden spoon in the next 5yrs.

He'll be good for the Hawks. I'm a little sad to see him go, but I guess we're rebuilding etc etc and the trade seems ok.

I'll tell you what really $h1ts me is the friggin Hawks winning ANOTHER premiership! I can't stand them! I'd sooner side with Collingwood than Hawthorn 10 times over. Why is it that the Hawks keep pulling Premierships out of their rear-end while we struggle to develop a team, rise to the top, miss t...

Yay!! Dear old Blakey got one!!!

Freo look damn sharp. I wouldn't doubt they could go all the way.

Anyone but the stinking Hawks!

I'd love him back, would romanticize about it, but then reality would set in I couldn't see it happening.

Who else could we take off their hands?

I'd certainly say this has provided the club with a small problem

He probably set himself on fire. You can't buy advertising like this...and I can't imagine dwarf entertainment sales would be going through the roof either

Geez I was proud of the boys today! What a magnificent heartfelt send-off to 3 club champions! Makes you so proud!

Realistically we're going to have the %$#@ kicked out of us, but I'll still come and cheer on the blokes who have had a crack for so many years and almost gotten us to that 2nd elusive friggin' flag. Wouldn't miss this game for the world. Who knows...maybe a miracle might happen

MRP has blinkers. It's like they apply the Sam Mitchell clause

I wouldn't miss seeing you off either Kosi, you've been a super servant for the Saints and always gave it everything. Best wishes for the future big guy, I'm going to missing seeing the twin towers wreaking havoc on the forward line. You've done the club proud.

You have been one of my all-time favourite players Steven and I wish you all the best in the future. Many of us are going to miss the added spark you brought to the game. Quite simply it just won't seem the same without you. Someone mentioned the likes of Lowe and Burkey and how your retirement runs...