You counted Dylan Roberton, who is from Franston... he is returning

How many 21 yr olds in St. Kilda squad have played 37 games?? Answer: 0.. yes that is the big fat zero, nada, none Roberton started 2012 as a 20 year old..... It is way too early to say he is a "spud". If he had played those games for the saints, people on the forum would be expecting that...

Kennedy may be the next Brent Harvey.. who knows.. but if he is still around at 25, if anything that would make him a "slider"
It seems Adelaide will stay in the draft.. so I recon they will nab him if he makes it to 20

Kennedy is top 10 on record, but is simply labelled "too short".... but hey, Parker was top 10 on record but "too slow" and Sydney got him at 40.. so you gotta be careful... fact is, Kennedy has been near the top of the tree in juniors for 2 seasons and has played seniors at SANF...

Roberton is very much worth a close look. 21 years old with 37 games.... already going ok, just needs a small step up...

well, seems he is definitely in the ND... a win-win for us.... If he goes before 25, we have effectivley moved up a spot wrt where we were at previously. If he makes it to 25/26, we can assess if he is better than the other options available.... If we dont take him, the very latest he will go is 38 ...

Jay Lever looks much bigger than last year.. no?
Hopefully he can surprise us this year...

Any chance of Jackson Coleman being our much needed tall defender? Clearly a big lad, coming back to footy after some time at cricket....they clearly see something in him

I think Jones may be squeezed out. Curran is a ready made replacement. There are delisted free agents who offer more potential IMO.

FB Geary, Gwilt, Simpkin HB Dempster, Fisher, Siposs C Steven, Hayes, Gilbert HF Schneider, Riewoldt, Stanley FF Milne, Koschitzke, Saad R McEvoy, Dal Santo, Armitage IC Ray, Newnes, Jones, Ledger So you think they will go with the same team as last year, except without Goddard? Why would they/you ...

taking a kid at pick 77 is a waste of time.

well, we did get Siposs with 75 not too long ago.... but generally yes... the recruiters will presumably know if there is someone they really rate still around and decide appropriately

well I am very surprised that
a) 2 people think Kosi is still in our best 18, and
b) no-one thinks Ray is in our best 18 and most do not even rate him as an emergency

I wonder whether Toy and for that matter jacobs go in the national draft. Add tippet and Adelaide losing their pick and it makes picks 25 and 26 interesting. Tippet would clearly go early. Jacobs may go around 20. Would we take him at 25? Would we look at Toy with any of our picks? Will be interesti...

Yes.. agreed... Front ending certainly has risks! It worked for ballsup and the pies though.... And if you pull it off, it means theoretically you can front end up and comers when not challenging.... then bring in a couple of FAs when you feel you are ready to challenge... Effectively the worth of y...

dont care if they strip them of their Scully compensation pick for starters!.
That would at least make things a little fairer!
and be a little ironic as well

Well it is all that not easy to walk when you are contracted. But sure you need to be a bit careful. Chose the right players. Rewards are worth the risk if done well

Front ending contracts is the thing to do now. Bring forward any salary that is possible to do so. Will mean several years with salary cap freedom and opportunities to recruit. Once you are 'ahead' due to front ending, that can cycle through indefinitely if done wisely.

Ray still ahead of dunell IMO. But we will see. Newness a possibility. Will Siposs be automatic? Time will tell

Sacked .. according to bigfooty.... more specifically according to Brian Speaking

Geelong wont let them go if they are good... We have done this before with Gamble and Gardner....did not work out.... so.. NO to both

The reports on Hartigan are that he does not get beaten one on one .. but can get done on the lead.... that is how Tommy L did him... so... can he play on gorillas? Cloke, resting ruckmen, Brown, Hawkins.... guys who dont rely on their pace and their leads? That is what the recruiter sill be weighin...

Presumably Post played most games at VFL level. He can thus easily be comapred with options like Noonan, Hartigan, Tighe, Gillies. Taking age into account, our recruiter need to look at them all and PICK THE BEST ONE... I doubt it is Post.... just hope they get it right.

Geelong have pick 16 and then nothing till 79.... I cant imagine they will take Hartigan at 16. Just wont happen. They may hope he gets to 79...
I really can see us getting him at 44..... At least, a mature age FB at 44...

If he is the best FB n the VFL yes. But as far as I know, he is not,. And there are 20 year olds who played well (better than Dowler as far as I know) as KPDs this year (Hartigan, Noonan, Tighe) who will develop further next year... So: no need to be Sandy-centric.. get the best available! If that i...

Still say use 41 and 46 on 2 of Hartigan, Tighe, Noonan..... why not? All young, all have 10 years ahead of them. If 1 ends up a KPD, you have a KDP for 2 picks in the 40s.... nothing wrong with that.... maybe you get 2! The odds of using the 2 40s picks on younger guys is lower... less than 50%.......