They know what they're doing. It's all part of the development plan ...anyone questioning the club or the head coach is a Lyon hater. Only some Scollop, only some.... It really depends on the issue that arouses critical discussion. Likewise there are those like myself who support the choice the clu...

Getting the picks is only 1 part of rebuilding Getting the selection right is part 2 Developing them correctly is part 4 Having the right leadership and culture around them - part 4 We got it very right in 2000-2002 GT should take a lot of credit for that We got it very wrong 2012-2014 Elshaug and ...

They know what they're doing. It's all part of the development plan

...anyone questioning the club or the head coach is a Lyon hater.

I think we were in advanced talks with Tom De Koning weren't we? Easy decision for him in the end. Why would you leave a club on the rise and go to a club in rebuild? It's going to take a lot of convincing...or a truck load of money (Weitering offer) to get a young star to come to us. I'm sure plent...

'light years ahead'

Team vs Individual It permeates throughout the team if ALL players are sharing the footy. It’s a mindset. He’s able to pick an opportunity to grab the footy out of the ruck. It’s a really good talent that Roma has. Cotchin and Selwood also mentioned Max Gawn. They said Max could probably do the same...

The team on Talking Footy just discussed the same issue. Show is available on 7 Plus on replay Joel Selwood and Trent Cotchin agreed he’d be more value passing the ball to one of his mids. Selwood was asked a direct question after they showed vision of Marshall’s clearances and he said something lik...

Have you learnt nothing from the last few weeks?? Ha I hope we show some good signs. The players have good memories from the last time they were on the MCG…plus Something stinks at Naarm. I’m not saying I’d tip us or wager any money that we’ll win I’m just saying that if we win, that I hope like he...

Owens over the past 3 weeks has attended 8 center bounces for 1 center clearance It sounds like you are arguing the point well that Owens hasn’t succeeded as a mid. The only problem with your stats are that he wasn't actually in the centre as a mid. He was the ruckman Easy to misrepresent isn’t it?

I think Melbourne are a shambles I realise we are longshots but I feel we can win this, especially with May out of form and Lever missing Are the media going to focus on Melbourne and how the wheels have fallen off, or will they say the Saints aren't as bad as everyone was making them out to be? One...

Nice stat for those who think we haven't been doing enough to develop our draftees. The most matches played from draftees in the past three years has West Coast on top with 199 games, from St Kilda (186), Hawthorn (177), North Melbourne (168) and Adelaide (122). Where are you getting these figures ...

Good move

Might as well get used to playing there

It'll be good practice for when we finally make another GF

takeaway, Staying conservative in your thinking is not the answer to St Kilda improving. Considering Brad Crouch as our 'best inside mid' is flawed. Windy was only in his second year, Sincs was only starting to be used in the middle and Steele was injured. Crouch is fading just as Seb Ross is. He a...

takeaway, It's relevant because tony74 reckons Mich has poor disposal. The data points to Mich having higher contested possession percentages and STILL having higher disposal efficiency. You can be as dismissive and condescending as you like, it doesn't alter the stats Staying conservative in your t...

This is very interesting data Scollop, thanks for gathering the data. I had also thought that Owens was blazing away a bit last year, so good to know it wasn't really any worse than other players. I agree, we should be giving time in the middle to our young players to develop them, especially while...

Nice analysis. Cheers mate It doesn't make sense to say you can't use Owens because of his poor disposal, when you are currently using Crouch who has equally poor disposal We know Owens is still very raw. He has only played 40 games. He has upside. We have time on our hands to allow him to grow int...

When is Part III coming out? Give it another 6 weeks Some of the people defending the coaching group will start their own threads with ideas and solutions Could even be you Devilhead :mrgreen: David King was rabbitting on about Lyon needing to put NWM in the middle. He said it on Fox Footy and repe...

The worst thing St Kilda could do right now is go backwards. I don't want to see a midfield with Seb, Steele and Crouch. I think there is a growing chorus of Saints supporters crying out for Owens to be used as an inside mid. I don't want him to be the second ruck. It's like the Blake Acres debate a...

Out: Jones, Collard, Sharman and Paton

In: Higgins, Sebby, Skunk and Clark

I'd like to see both Lance boy and Coops play another game in the seniors. It's pointless bringing them in for just 1 game ...but we know what will probably happen

I put myself through watching the game on replay again. It's not too bad when you already know the result. Not as frustrating to watch 😎 Anyhow, I think our whole team is lacking energy and enthusiasm. It looks like a real grind and even a guy like Rowan (who usually flashes his pearly whites a coup...

Those insisting Hill wasn't at fault -- or at least the junior partner in this stuff-up -- might be right, as it's difficult to know for sure if anyone of Hill#s height could have marked Bonner's kick. Nevertheless, Hill has form in this area -- not straining bhimself if the delivery isn't centimet...

5 Marshall 4 NWM 3 Sinclair 2 Wilson 1 Owens Hammer was good with his 2 goals and his ability to inspire his team mates. I watched the replay and was bemused when he was rewarded a free kick when it was actually King who was interfered with. There were 2 separate 1 on 1 battles going on about 10 m a...

All Teffers wants to do is pot the players He was bullish on the list in 2023, but now they're all duds bar a handful of players Our form and game style is all Robert Harvey's doing ...and the talentless players The lack of development and lack of confidence has nothing to do with the head coach app...

Thanks mate Amazed this clueless git can’t even listen to what was said and get it right … Ross hatred doth blindeth some … We'll see who the clueless git is soon enough. You have been bullish on Lyon ever since he first coached us...I get that. You're not alone. The problem I have and many others ...

At the end of the day It was the 2014 draft that killed us I distinctly remember AR telling Elshaug we HAD to get the pick 1 right. He had concerns over Paddy’s weight and not overly dominating in is 18s year. Elshaugh was adamant he was our man. Hugh Goddard was a steal at pick 21 - did do an Achi...