Anyway, when we get everyone fit and back, we will do okay.
Liam Henry was a big loss.
If Bonner and Stocker are considered bottom 6, we're not doing too badly.

Too much energy is being wasted and misdirected on coaches and their importance ... concentrate on getting the all-important recruiting right, and everything else will fall into place.

I am not a fan of our current game plan, mind you.

A rebuild presupposes astute recruiting and drafting.
That would be an aberration for us.

A club like Geelong on the other hand .. just when we think they're past it, they keep proving us wrong, thanks to their drafting and recruiting.

Supporters are supporters. The problem is, it's our recruiters who have over-rated our players and their recruiting ... "Winx this, Winx that""He slid to pick18 "etc . and keep under-rating obvious midfield talent. What do we expect? We (the supporters) should be doing the recrui...

It's not enough that we have an average midfield, we're not helping things by giving/gifting midfield numbers to opposition half backs.
We effectively have two midfields to compete against.

Bailey Dale B.O.G. .... Be Our Guest (for the week). Help yourself.

So was it the unlucky bounce in 2010 or more this unfortunate game plan? It needs to be asked at some stage. Shaw, Thomas, O'Brien etc. kept rebounding everything at will in 2010 .. we made them superstars. Enright, Kelly and Milburn destroyed us in 2009 ... we gave them too much latitude. Martin 44...

A system and game plan that allows the opposition half back players to gather career high numbers ... ???

Even if Max isn't the problem - and as you say we lack system and/or the required kicking skills (no arguments from me there), the bottom line is we're kicking as many goals with him or absent him at FF. The question remains, can we utilise our number 4 draft pick more productively in another positi...

Is our bombing of the ball into the F50 as a result of Max choosing not to lead as it doesn't come naturally to him or is it because he's being instructed not to lead? Our default F50 entry method, to bomb away to a contested hot spot, might just be due to our unreliable or poor kicking skills? But,...

To be fair though, if you look at Max's stats, he's credited with 4.2 inside 50s per game ave this year, which suggests he's roaming around a bit more ( outside the 50m arc) - which would of course impact the number of goals he kicks himself, as well as his accuracy, as he's kicking it from a bit fu...

Nothing like an over reaction. Glad some are not on match committee or head of football 74 games and Ave just under 2 goals per game in a team which has made finals once in previous 4 season. Give it some context: Tom Hawkins first 60 games averaged 1.3 goals per game Jack Riewoldt first 68 games a...

I reckon Max Heath can play the role that King is playing at the moment, and he'd be a better shot at goal. King is not soft ... he might just be better suited to another key position. I'm actually thinking CHB ... as an intercept mark, spoling from behind, etc... Some lateral thinking. Is King more...

Max King could potentially be the best CHB, who knows... but for some reason he is only seen as a FF?

Our game plan is leaving too much space for their halfbacks ... we need man on man.
King is being wasted at full forward.

It's not about how many goals Max is kicking off his own boot, at the end of the day, it's about improving our team, overall. Where can we get the most bang for our team from our buck (pardon the pun ... at 23 he's still a buck), the most benefit for our team, anyway. CHF, CHB ... the surface of the...

We've had a chance to see how our forward line functions with or without Max in it as FF.
Plus or minus Max at FF, we're kicking 9 goals.

It could mean that Max could be better utilised elsewhere (other than at FF)?
Try something different ... a bit of lateral thinking?

Start with CHF, for example?

Max has the athleticism to play CHF where he might be better suited? If he has more space to move around in, he'd be harder to cover? In theory. He's doing okay at FF ... but he might do better than okay elsewhere? Even CHB ... Roberton as a pick 49 was averaging 25 possessions and was arguably our ...

Our stoppage clearance numbers are actually okay.
Our centre clearance numbers only need to improve by 3 or 4 per match.
I'm looking forward to Dow in a couple of weeks.

Our stoppage clearance numbers are actually okay.
Our centre clearance numbers only need to improve by 3 or 4 per match.
I'm looking forward to Dow in a couple of weeks.

Our recruiters chose Ben Long over Shai Bolton ... go figure.

Why not Stewart Loewe as goal kicking coach?

Nic Martin B.O.G. .... Be Our Guest!
Just help yourself.

(To put Sicily's 46 and Martin's 44 possession count in context, Jack Steele as a midfielder has only ever managed to get to 38 possessions, once, over his career).

Good game plan, not.
It needs a rethink, a rejig, IMHO.

Nic Martin had 44 possessions ... that's twice his average - playing as a half back yesterday. His average last year was 22 playing in the midfield. Sicily had 46 possessions record breaking possessions against us. Half back flankers love playing against us ... let's not beat around the bush. Does o...

I reckon we should Tony it down.... too much Tony this, Tony that.

Mate Give me two elite mids and 3 gop over 5 good players anyday You need quality to beat quality Watched Oliver and Petracca dominate again today! Seb Ross beat De Goey and Windhager beat Naicos ... so our good players are pretty damn good. :wink: The fact that a decent, skillful player like Stock...