We all talk petracca v mccartin
But the biggest travesty was Judd v ball
That cost us a premiership

Billings played as he has for the last few years Plays ok Tries hard, moves well, kicks ok and misses gettable goals Unfortunately we do not miss him, I am sure we all wanted him to be that a grader that he promised, he just never was. Ironic his fringe mate became the star he should have been. No m...

2nd coming of Carey
You are so hysterical when an opposing point of view is mounted

You are and always have been incapable of debate
I don’t know why I even bother

Owens was a revelation in that role last year, was a close second in the rising star - but this year is no good. Just saying

So who is 2nd ruck if Owens isn’t?
We don’t have one
Marshall needs more of a chop out - he was too tired at the end and it really cost us

Agree with BM
Taking pleasure in billings and gresh playing poorly is low, especially when they are not playing against you - re billings

Great game
Best game he has played, especially given he was in the guts against the best player in the comp

Can only imagine how some of you would have been on the pies board when treloar and Stephenson were traded for nothing picks and treloars salary was being paid, let alone giving away an AA ruck man and paying 300k a year….. Billings deal is nothing compared to this. Clearly you guys have no idea how...

What makes you say he was a consummate professional?
From the outside he never worked hard enough in my eyes?

Interesting isn’t it, I flagged pick 21 with my dogs mates and they said that’s overs - pick 35 would get it done. They need points for Croft f/s and need salary cap relief to sign English He is 30 when the season starts next year Everyone though the pies were a basket case dumping treloar and Steph...

Dogs need salary cap relief We need A grade mids Yes macrae is 29 but he is durable and will play well beyond 30 Why not pick 35 plus coffield for macrae Dogs get another pick for their father son and much needed salary cap relief Macrae slipped out of the midfield onto a wing or half forward for th...

Billy Frampton. Luckiest man in Australia today . D grade AFL footballer, 2 possessions in an entire game of football that he only played in because someone got injured. And there he sits with a premiership medallion around his neck. Frampton is not on his pat malone, there are a few very ordinary ...

I was annoyed we didn’t get Josh Kelly in his draft year as I was a massive fan! But alas he was gone. Would I have selected JB at 3 Yes - even though he was only a HF Bont was a ‘reach’ and I wouldn’t take any risks with FRDPs Bont has paid off for the WBs so good drafting and good luck to them 20...

Clubs can find out from afl what compo is before agreeing to match deal or not for restricted. 750k to 800k min 4 years gets r1 compo - seems a big stretch for Gresham obviously If Gresham left and we wanted Jordan then we swap late picks or ship them a 4th rounder as free agency compo is limited an...

Gresham and pick 30 for pick 13 and shiel
Pick 12 and pick 13 for gc pick 4 and Elijah hollands

So Gresham and pick 30 for shiel, hollands and pick 4

Jones 1 year deal base wage or leave DMac Is he contracted? If not 1 year base wage or retire Coffield 3 year deal or second round draft pick Gresham Match offer we want second round Compo Owens Multi year deal extension Clarke 3 year deal or second round draft pick Stocker Extension 2 years Billin...

Don’t disagree, but I think both dow and Jordan could have unfulfilled upside - they could be better than seb and crouch NOW - we just don’t know

Funny When you ask for diamonds in the rough, a mid gets put up not getting game time because of a 3 a grade mids in front of him, it’s slapped down as a terrible idea. It’s the very definition of a diamond in the rough Wood was injury prone, soft and terribly inconsistent before we got him on the ...

Funny When you ask for diamonds in the rough, a mid gets put up not getting game time because of a 3 a grade mids in front of him, it’s slapped down as a terrible idea. It’s the very definition of a diamond in the rough Wood was injury prone, soft and terribly inconsistent before we got him on the s...

His game on Saturday not his abilities overall

I think his kicking is overrated, he misses too many kicks for mine

Seb got votes by a few on here - I didn’t think he was great - but had 24 and worked hard - Seb had played 1 game in 7 weeks Crouch was pretty average but had 21 - he wasn’t a passenger - he just didn’t play out of his skin Steele had 38, Marshall 31, Hill played well - so not all senior players we...

Both very poor BM - not arguing they did much at all. Pou should have been rested weeks ago and brought back in for the last 3 rounds However Clark was average to poor Seb was average to poor Crouch was average They are the real worry and the ones that cost us Pou and caminiti would have been better...

If we bang the table and demand better then they will get better, don’t you know that’s how it works Instead of focusing on Pou and Caminiti, ask these questions Ross went at 45% efficiency up until midway 3rd quarter How did Hunter Clark go, was he effective? Crouch double grabbed everything Higgin...

He wasn’t beaten on the day I think it was the right match up Who else could play on toby? NWM - nope Battle - too loose and not agile/quick enough Webster - cannot go with him aerially Cordy - nope Sinclair - nope Toby was the one to negate Unfortunately our mids got smashed and our pressure was no...

This is a piss take
There would be 16-18 worse players than him on the day