1/ I think you are only looking at where a ruckman really crucified us.....rather than looking at how a good to elite ruckman could have provided some extra advantage in virtually every game. How many elite ruckman are there in the game? Infact, how many elite ruckmen have their been in the history...

Charman has not signed and it has been mentioned he wants to come to Vic, nothing wrong with speculation surely. As for needing a ruckman I can't believe some on here think we don't need one. Every time we play West Coast Cox is BOG, and when we play Port Lade is BOG, it helps them get over the line...

When analysing this deal, we do realise we give away 16 places in the draft and a 3rd round pick here, we are not simply just givinig up a first rounder. If dropping 16 odd places is too much fair enough, but just look at the whole deal, we gain a second round pick. Pick 9 is not that high. Charman ...

Give the Lions pick 9 and 43 (3rd rounder) for Charman and the Lions pick 26 (2nd rounder).

Leaves us with a quality ruckman and two second round picks.

What do we think, too much?

We can't go into next season hoping Gardiner will be OK and rely on Rix and Blake to partner Kosi, we just can't.

He is a reasonable forward, but not good enough down back, not strong enough in the contest.

Why would a Crows team struggling for key talls up forward give him away?

Is it possible that with G retired Brooks might get a reprieve?

Marto, where is this so called analysis factually incorrect?

What about Goose for Fev? Would you rather 8 years of service from a quality big-bodied defender (a position we are sorely lacking in), or 3 years from an unreliable, moronic full-forward that brings bad attention to the club? I'd rather 8 years of good service over 3 years of very good service, bu...

What about Goose for Fev?

we need some pace through the midfield, currently we are probably the slowest team in the AFL with the possible exception of Sydney Geelong and West Coast are slow. Particularly with Judd down, West Coast are very one paced. Biggest myth in footy, and a copout. Geelong aren't overly quick either. T...

With the same injuries GT would NOT have done any better with the list IMO..... Just not happy with the style of footy.......ugly at best...and will not be successfull.....just keeps the opposition in the game, and reqiures belief, character and discipline - we have none of those qualities accross ...

Thanks for the memories Thommo, warrior to the end.
Unsung hero and almost a captain, 221 games from the age of 24 is one heluva effort.
Cannot be underestimated

As much as he trys hard and looks a great bloke, no good I'm afraid, his disposal is not up to AFL standard, he might have pace but its not enough.

I must admit, looking back on the year, there aren't that many highlights, as in games to watch again etc. Whilst I agree with you Marto that the footy often wasn't pretty, I honestly believe if GT stayed, we would have been very frustrated this year, because EVERYONE plays this auskick type moving ...

One of my favs as well
What a great pick up he has been for our club over the last 7 years, had loads of injuries over the time but missed little footy.
Classy bloke to the end, a good St Kilda person through and through.
Well done Fras, thanks for everything.

I too agree on the outs, although with the big G retiring, maybe Brooks may be the luckiest bloke around.

Surely Jones won't get promoted, no way is he up to it, no way, worse than McGough

Buchanan got one, this surely is a joke.....

Gilbert is capable of playing full-back after a pre-season ... he is 194cm. Chips also destroyed Hansen ... pantsed him. Disagree that he can't play fullback. Goose struggled ... but one of Lynch's goals was from a mark that shouldn't have been paid, and another was from a flukey snap. Wasn't as ba...

saint66au wrote:

The Lights are from Holland

LOL..Where else would you buy lights that help grow grass better????

Of course Baker is going to admit he had contact with Farmer!! Farmer ran into him!! That's not the point, the point made by Lewis is that because there was no evidence as to how the contact was made Baker should have just said that the contact was purely accidental and not made because he delibera...

Understand both your points, but the system hasn't changed over the years, we should have used it and he would be free right now, simple as that.

Very good thread. Completely agree, he can't have a 25% reduction because it went straight to the tribunal, hardly ethical. Why does Kosi have a duty of awareness but Farmer doesn't? Quite right above in the Hall case, they were in the next movement of play, so to speak... I just find this unbelieva...

Solar wrote:the reporter on SEN has said that from his view the saints did EVERYTHING they could, they all thought he would get off.

The result is everything, its a fail whichever way you look at it

We must have the prosecutors in the OJ Simpson case, every time we complain about our QC's, I remember Hamill getting a week for tripping because we got the leg wrong!!!

This is shameful, unfortunately Kenny S, this is your area of responsiblity, fix it...

Get real, of course we appeal.
Take out an injunction ala the Dunkley '96 GF case so he plays this week at least.

This tribunal wheel of fortune really found a good one here

Dal is as accountable as Banger, care to criticise the great man as well?
How accountable do you think Judd, Cousins and Kerr are?