He would not have played 134 games of AFL footy if he was the skirt....seriously.....most people on here would not have the courage to run across the white line, at any level.... :lol: how would you go in the vicinity of Barry Hall, Jono Brown, Mark Riccutio, Cam Mooney, David Neitz.....Fiora has be...

Seriously - Baldock was great......but did he, in 113 games, have the same impact as Robert Harvey over 21 years........and 366 games....FFS Harvey has about 50 odd BOG's two things Baldock was a 5'11" CHF in an era, when Ruckman were 6'1" to 6'3"......Verdun Howell was a 5'11" F...

Fiora's best patch at Richmond coincided with his move to HB in 2004 after being dropped for a long while.....he averaged over 20 a game, and played as an attacking HBF (not good in defence though, neither is Jason btw)...Fiora is better overhead than most think..... I would play Mini as a small fwd...

Robert Harvey stands ALONE as the saints great player........on games played alone.......If you cut his career in two.... Harvey #1 - 0-183 games & Harvey #2 - 184-366 games both of those players would be in our top 6.......add them up, and they give you the best by a distance....he is FREAK! wi...

Charlie Gardner can plat ONE position......opposition coaches know that...and he makes there planning easy....charlie/frase/milne/Kosi made our fwd line so predictable it was a JOKE! Questions - Has Ferg been injured in the last 4-5 years?....is he finally injury free?......is he in good form?.........

May I ask you - WTF did Schneider do last week to Justify his place in the team...... He was the Worst player on the ground last week by a mile (way ahead of Raph/Frase).....and how he could even look at Hayes, Harvey, Ball after an effort like that I would be amazed....he watched his HBF have shots...

not sure we are gonna win anyway......but about time the list was put on NOTICE!!!! Average efforts are not acceptable, and safe, boring, easy selections do not advance anyone.... And DO NOT bring back underdone players in a fit of panic to save your ass Ross.....it worked last week with Max.....but...

if he had of kicked straight in the last three years we would not be having this argument...... He has had far more shots per game than any of our midfielders by a margin (joey second) his accuracy <35% has killed his effectiveness.....he is a confidence player.........and this would not have helped...

Brett performed really well in the nat champs in 2005.....and must have been close to being drafted....played for the Tas Devils in the VFL as a 17yo....then moved to werribee....and did OK.....he would be 21 at the moment, listed at 180cm, and I think he is from the NW coast of Tassie (Burnie)....i...

Lenny clearly the most consistent........ Ball and Sam Fisher 2nd and third...... Montagna and Dal have been up and down.....but their good games are more damaging which is why they are so dangerous, and they get votes in that format......the argument is....do they play well when we do (downhill ski...

Would like to see him win some outside (easy footy) in general playoccasionally aswell as the contested ball he wins.....needs to be more than a stopage specialist to be a VG player

Nicky winmar was a great player........about two levels below C.Judd...that's how good Judd was/will be... Those who say N.Winmar was the most naturally gifted footballer ever....umm, Gary Ablett snr....James Hird.....Nathan Buckley....Robert Harvey....Wayne Carey....Michael Voss....Tony Lockett.......

I was sure Leon spent a fair bit of time in the midfield...

Until we get it right.... will not succeed IMO Ross is picking NAMES and coming up with a structure from there.....I would go with a STRUCTURE....then add some names......this means that some good player have to miss out.....but the balance of the side would be better......ie/ more speed... EG/ DEFE...

Chris Judd - every bit the wingman Nicky Winmar was...... Premiership Captain 3 * Best & Fairest Brownlow Medal Norm Smith Medal Best player in the AFL without Question in 2005/2006 Not sure Nicky (as good as he was) ever reached those heights....Juddy is a superstar.... Judd is not (nor has eve...

Macca, Steven, Allen and Geary all have futures.....will need time and opportunities to develop.... Ferguson, Mini, Fiora should get one more opportunity.......make or break... Rix, CJ are very good VFL players with obvious deficiencies...... Gwilt is a strange one....... Van Reehnan and Haretuku ar...

Physicality is almost useless in todays footy......Skill level, decision making, speed and fitness are the keys.....over aggression is punished nowadays....

Pendlebury, Thomas, Didak, Davis.....are any of them overly physical...

We had four players whowould recieve 1/10 in a rating system tonight...(#28, #16, #13, #23)...and a further 2 who would have recieved 2/10...(#9, #2)

How are u supposed to win with an efort like that....

King - how many possesions - 2

I'd rather 2 hit outs and 23 possions.....

we need to WIN the footy...

Need to do more than blanket a guy....you have to win some footy aswell...we cannot have 8 players getting less than 10 touches......but yes he was serviceable for a guy who got 7 touches...

Koschitzke and Fraser
Dempster and L.Fisher
Gardner and King
Schneider and Milne

only about half the players decided to turn up.....

Ball, Dal, Joey, Sam, Max, Dempster, Blake, Gardi, BJ, Lenny, Robert

you are excused

Ball more than excused!!!

The rest - F*** OFF

Thought his commentary was insightful and completely non-biased......and I hated him as a player.....love him as a commentator...

Good luck to him.....

lets not forget Sam Mitchell and Campbell Brown and of course Hodge....whilst ladson is still playing...

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