Got to base my votes on effective effort over four quarters, not just stats so..

5. Battle
4. Wilke
3. Bonner
2. Marshall ( though his opponent did well early)
1. Steele (another slow start to a game but I'll cut him slack for coming good later)

I remember well the time around the club when Lyon left years back- it was common knowledge that he wasn't interested in rebuilding teams. The Lyon I used to notice at training back then looks and sounds a lot different than the one I've seen at training now. Back then he was clearly driven and whol...

Whether the game plan is right or wrong doesn’t explain dropped marks, fumbles, missed tackles, mis-kicks, poor accuracy. Too many players not up to it. That's the kind of thing you have a coach for- amongst other things, to work on deficiencies. I think Lyon is only interested in a game plan and s...

The midfield and forward line were woeful, including Hayes

We need give Tim a rest and bring Coops back in- usually looks more like he is going to kick a goal and tries to take a few screamers. Very unimpressed with King and Hayes as well today- letting the Hawks dictate the play.

Paton is the sub Breust for Hawks Do’h I don’t get it. What could you hope to get from Paton late in the game other than for him to come on and possibly blanket a staring Hawk mid. I’d have had him top 22 or nothing Sub out Henry or Wood or Membrey or Ross, or Hayes and put Paton in the middle and ...

Might just be a case of one of those highly fancied recruits who don't crack it at senior AFL level. I wish him well, but I'm not seeing much so far.

Given Hawthorn beat WB, who thrashed us by controlling the ball (and have done it before against us), imagine the vitriolic response on this Forum if Hawthorn also beat us!!!!! No St Kilda player will be spared - all duds by varying descriptions of their missing attributes The internet, hey? And ke...

No comparison to Roo at the same stage of his career. None at all. Definitely not.... 2001Nick waltzes into Harvard - Gehrig, Everitt, Loewe, Hall...with Hamill, Hayes, Harvey, Milne in the mid and small forwards....SUPPORT. ALL DAY EVERY GAME...for years. King crawls into Frankston TAFE and he's g...

So far, Arie is not showing enough to get a senior game at this stage, same for Collard. Dow was ok but nothing spectacular in the last Sandy game. I would like to see Hastie get more senior games as opposed to Pou who looks out of his depth this season.

B.M wrote: ↑Tue 07 May 2024 10:36am Sick of excuses for him

Time to man up and have a crack

Never heard so many excuses for a player not performing. Best way to counter that is to go get the ball, make the play, not sit back and demand it on a platter close to goal. Lyon just needs to play him up the ground as a high half forward.

I think it's time for a run at Sandy by two players who are basically off the pace, Pou and Owens. The return of Hayes, who has only played a small number of AFL games, showed that they need to up their efforts. Probably Sharman is more useful and can be swung around in different roles and could be ...

I feel like that a form slump is what Max needs to break the shackles of expectation. Once he no longer feels the teams weight on his shoulder he can be freed to just play good footy. It's a team game and all the players have a weight on their shoulders to perform, not just Max. We can't wait for p...

I think we all agree Saturday was an odd feeling - got a win , which is a new thing of recent times, however the expectation based more on North's poor performances rather than St Kilda's expected a bigger more dominant win. North have a good midfield and solid ruck, Larky can be good and Sheezel i...

Byrnes is slowly improving and will get better, but he hasn't been our worst player this season and Bonner is not too bad and should keep his spot. I'm more concerned that Pou, Owens and Membrey are not having much impact this season and need to pull their finger out.

5. Sincs
4. Wilson
3. Hayes
2. Dougal
1. Hill

Play King in the midfield- might as well try everyone until someone clicks

If we do our trademark slow start, then Norf might run over us early and we will again have to resort to catch up footy. I just hope we do a better job of tackling and winning one-on-ones

We do lack crumbing zip in the forward half, and with King, Hayes and Pou, it looks like slow drying cement- if they don't clunk the marks, then it's gone up the other end. Garcia may spend time on the forward line I reckon as may Wood.

Killa wrote: ↑Thu 02 May 2024 4:45pm So given the content on this site by certain, which players on St Kilda’s List are not duds?

Should be an interesting response!

Best to ask Lyon that- he's selecting them

So in the same boat as the guy described by a Judge as going back into the Lion’s Den to recover his hat Simply, Howard draws the best key forward - and those key forwards can touch anyone up particularly given a midfield dominance Would you care to list the significant bags of goals these principa...

The AFL have been pressured by medical bodies, legal bodies and the public generally about addressing concussion, and rightly so. It's more than likely that if a player is concussed due to a tackle of any sort from an opposition player, and fails concussion protocols, then it would be hard to talk y...

Seb is one of a midfield who try hard, but are a step behind the better midfields, and will never get us to the next premiership

King, Jones, Hayes, Paton, Campbell, Dow, Hastie, Collard, Webster, Arie all possibles, but Lyon doesn't take risks which is why his teams don't win premierships. Don't expect many changes.

I'm sick of the tokenism of gender equality. That's what happens when you put a woman in charge of a man's game. You play AFL you are likely to get concussed. Laura Keene, you look like a nice lady but AFL is not for you. So you would think a woman is ok if Higgins got off? If it was just all bloke...