5. Wilke
4. Wilson
3. Sincs
2. Marshall
1. Cordy

The opposition coaches have worked Lyon's game out after one and a bit seasons. Similar in a way to 2011 where the strengths of the game plan of 2009/2010 were picked apart by the opposition. Yesterday's man I'm afraid as I feared when they appointed him as coach again.

Pressure by Saints forwards on PA backline= 0
Pressure by Saints backline on PA forward line=0
Ability of Saints midfield to get hands on the ball=0

Steele and Ross need a rocket at half time- just jogging and not hitting the contest hard enough around stoppages.

Lyon needs to get rid if the play on at all costs game, we're too slow to do it, and start getting the team to play man on man footy. Out-coached again so far. Pou looks like a schoolboy when the ball is in contests and Membrey and Sharman make the forward half too slow. Sub Dougal and put Sharman d...

Pou needs to be benched- hospital handballs when we have the advantage is match-losing

Looking at the Collingwood game we won- Henry would be the most important return as we lack that spark in the forward half of the ground. King is good for a couple of goals and Webster is solid and experienced. I get the feeling Clark may be cooked, just too many injuries and will need to break into...

Sadly, in the decades I've been following the Saints, it has never been a rebuild, just topping up the list trying to get quick success. I remember when Lyon left, the club presumed the next coach could take that team to the finals, but Watters saw deficiencies with the list after the 2010 final and...

We don't need a group of senior GOPs who are not winning their positions, as an example for the young players though

It's all nice to think we got close in losing, but we lost the games and that's all that counts. We played poor football for parts of those losses and even in our two wins- especially against a undermanned Richmond. We have yet to put together a good four quarter game.

Lyon has been caught out quite a bit this season tactically, then had to rejig plans half way through games to catch up- not too confident with him this time around.

I guess when you look at some of our poor team statistics compared to the rest of the comp, the finger should be pointed straight at the senior coach

The Saints just better start winning more games- people like winners, not also-rans. When we started dominating games under GT, the crowds started back big-time.

Pretty obvious now that our forward half is too slow, has practically no defensive system and can easily be run off. I would think about putting Steele in the forward half for a bit more hunger at the ball and opposition, and play Owen exclusively at FF.

Phillipou will be elite. Bookmark it. RTB and crew are playing him in the midfield as part of his overall football "education". It's for his own good, even though he is struggling atm. He'll come good. If you doubt it, go back and look at his highlights from the first half of last year. W...

Jones did pretty well under Ratts when we made the finals, but injuries have interrupted his progress sadly. Some players play better under different coaches and that's always been the case.

They were the rules at the time - they got a bit lucky But still To win 4 premierships in 15 years and only miss the finals once and never ‘rebuild’ is commendable We couldn’t do it Remember We were also the beneficiary of 2 priority picks and 2 x Number 1 picks and 2 x number 2 picks in 3 years So...

Development. Another topic I guess but Owens, Windhager and Philipou gone backwards 100mph this year. Alarm bells I would have thought. If they do not work, then it’s nearly curtains for the club with Tassie coming in and hoarding all the picks. Low and behold we’d find ourselves on the bottom agai...

I thought at the time that Bassat bringing in Lyon was a PR stunt from a desperate president who was impatient for success, and who thought looking backwards was the answer. I was really disappointed with Lyon coming back, as I see him as the past, had his time and been out of the game for a while a...

I think a lot of Saints supporters over-rate some of our players. We have a few older players who can get a bit of the ball, but a bunch of GOPs who are not going to turn into the next big thing.

Jones not happy the other night, but wasn't the worst player out there- we were too top heavy and one of Pou or Sharman should have subbed out.

On Phillipou… I wouldn’t compare him to Billings at all. Kid has second year blues. A lot of players have had it before I.E - Clark, Windhager, Coffield etc. He will come good. You see glimpses of the potential. He’s just got to put it all together. The kid is still 19. Wait for the maturity to kic...

5. Hill
4. Windy
3. Bonner
2. Stocker
1. Garcia

Who would want to be a forward at the Saints when you have a C-grade midfield who either can't get the ball, or just bomb. We actually need class in the midfield.

As I suspected Lyon has been out of the game too long. The early sugar hit this season has worn off and now he been found wanting. Once the defensive game fails, there's nothing.